It appears even the new Busse Team Gemini is being copied..

[jeepin]

I just saw this picture at another forum which I think is the members collection. He is from spain, but I have no idea where he got the knife.

Check out the picbusse.jpg

[Alpha Mike]

Not a very good copy.

[DanBo82]

[Sethrotull]

Can anyone read the name on that blade? My guess is someone wasn't trying to pass it off as a Busse but liked the design and didn't know any better. Probably thought they changed it enough.

[BePrepared]

Kinda looks like the inbred downs syndrome child of a hellrazor and a TG

[amflud]

The bottom one looks like a Chris Reeve copy.

[hunterseeker5]

I'm going to be brutally honest here: I think all the animosity toward whoever made that knife is probably unnecessary. If you actually look at a Team Gemini you'll see they're not very similar.

Gemini:

"copy" Gemini:


Yeah they both have pierced quillions, a G10/phenolic slab handle, a fuller, and a saber grind but none of those features are unique to Busse. The overall design when I first saw it from Busse wasn't "oh hey look a knife like I've never seen before" it was more like "oh hey another company's stock-reduction built interpretation of a USMC combat knife." Thats not a bad thing, its just Busse's interpretation of a popular style. Lets revisit its origins shall we?
KaBar (horrible company google vector marketing some time)

And the current issue:


So the lineage is pretty clear. What about other common interpretations?

Tops (to the right of the two aforementioned):


Strider: (they made one even more reminiscent, but I can't seem to find a picture)


ZT/Kershaw:


Szabo Inc:




So what does all this mean? It means its a very popular style. And here is the really great thing about Busse: while admittedly some of the charm is in the design, most of it is in the INFI and the brand. That means that unless the blade is a fake busse, meaning its being sold as a busse when its not, I highly doubt its "competing" with busse or doing anything negative to busse because the person who'd buy something that kinda looks like a busse, and the person who has to have a busse, are completely different people. Its not one of those artsy fartsy brands where everyone buys them to put them in a safe and goober over them like some mouth-breather because they can't actually be used as knives.

[jeepin]

I'm going to be brutally honest here: I think all the animosity toward whoever made that knife is probably unnecessary. If you actually look at a Team Gemini you'll see they're not very similar.

Gemini:

"copy" Gemini:


Yeah they both have pierced quillions, a G10/phenolic slab handle, a fuller, and a saber grind but none of those features are unique to Busse. The overall design when I first saw it from Busse wasn't "oh hey look a knife like I've never seen before" it was more like "oh hey another company's stock-reduction built interpretation of a USMC combat knife." Thats not a bad thing, its just Busse's interpretation of a popular style. Lets revisit its origins shall we?
KaBar (horrible company google vector marketing some time)

And the current issue:


So the lineage is pretty clear. What about other common interpretations?

Tops (to the right of the two aforementioned):


Strider: (they made one even more reminiscent, but I can't seem to find a picture)


ZT/Kershaw:


Szabo Inc:




So what does all this mean? It means its a very popular style. And here is the really great thing about Busse: while admittedly some of the charm is in the design, most of it is in the INFI and the brand. That means that unless the blade is a fake busse, meaning its being sold as a busse when its not, I highly doubt its "competing" with busse or doing anything negative to busse because the person who'd buy something that kinda looks like a busse, and the person who has to have a busse, are completely different people. Its not one of those artsy fartsy brands where everyone buys them to put them in a safe and goober over them like some mouth-breather because they can't actually be used as knives.

It seems to me that you need to invest in some glasses

[Gundog JYD#138]

I thinks its a copy. But each can and should have their own opinion. And we need to respect that.

[symphonyincminor]

I like the pointy spikes added to the butt-end of the, errr..., "homage" knife

(just kidding )

[Czechmate]

That "copy" or whatever ya wanna call it looks like hammered shite.

I dunno what HS5 is on about with the pictures; the knife in question looks suspiciously like a TGLB...

[hunterseeker5]

Let me put it this way:

Which one of these is the real CRK top or bottom?

[Bullcarver]

Looks like a collection of those knives that get sold LATE NIGHT on TV where you get 50 different knives for $29.95 and they toss in a free Deluxe BOO-wee Knife if you phone your order in within the next 10 Minutes. That phony Team Gemini "STYLE" knife looks just a cheap as those other ones in that collection of junque.

[Last Visible Canary]

I'm going to be brutally honest here: I think all the animosity toward whoever made that knife is probably unnecessary. If you actually look at a Team Gemini you'll see they're not very similar.

Busse has a trademark on the hole in the gaurd. Regardless of the similarity or differences it's a trademark infringement that's enforceable though U.S. law when sold in the U.S.

While you can show a variety of forms of the original kabar (many of which look notably different stylistically) there is only one example of a team gemini copy/mimic that looks similar in this thread. If there was as many examples of similar knives to the TG as there are to the kabar you might have a case that it's a 'really popular design'. I haven't seen any in my time in the knife world. The only thing keeping the example shown here form being a direct copy is that it's poorly done and the geometry doesn't match up perfectly. Put a little more effort and skill into it's creation and you'd have an exact replica.