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    military issued knives


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    How about a thread on knives that are or were officially issued to service men all over the world. Post pics of military issued knives, what you like and dislike about them, what you use them for (survival, bushcraft...) and modifications that you did. It doesn't matter when a certain knife comes up several times.

    Glock FM-78 / 81


    Austrian Army, spring steel,
    length: 16,5cm
    thickness: 6mm
    hardness RC: 55

    The knife is on of my all time favourites.
    pros:
    -extremely though
    -light
    -excellent sheath
    -cheap

    cons:
    -factory finish is poor (so you have to put an adquate edge and tip yourself)
    -not ideal for finer tasks


    The Glock makes a wonderful survival knife.

    The FM81 comes with a (pretty useless) saw on the spine.
    Here's a pic of the 81 where I modified the tip to a clip point.
    Last edited by ml100; 08-28-2013 at 01:36 AM.

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    Ontario ASEK







    US Air Force

    Hardness 50-54 HRC
    Overall Length 10.25 in (26.0 cm)
    Weight 1 lb 2.6 oz (0.527 kg)
    Blade Length 4.95 in (12.6 cm)
    Blade Material 1095 Carbon Steel
    Blade Grind Flat
    Blade Angle 60 Degrees
    Blade Thickness 0.184 in (0.47 cm)
    Blade Color Black
    Blade Finish Zinc Phosphate


    The knife comes with an additional tool (belt cutter, screwdriver, ceramic sharpener), which actually works well.

    My ASEK is always in the car, next to the driver's seat. Would make a wonderful urban survival knife.
    Love the hammer / glassbreaker feature.

    Not very suitable for bushcraft though.
    Last edited by ml100; 05-29-2013 at 02:44 AM.

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    Fällkniven F1
    (the sheath in this pic is custom made, not issued)



    Swedish Air Force

    Total length: 210 mm (8.3")
    Blade length: 97 mm (3.8")
    Blade thickness: 4.5 mm (0.18"), tapered
    Tang: Broad, protruding
    Weight (knife): 150 g (6oz)
    Steel: Lam. VG10
    Blade hardness: 59 HRC
    Handle: Thermorun
    Sheath: Zytel sheath

    pros:
    -everything

    cons:
    -nothing
    actually, the coating is crap and wears off easily.

    A perfect small outdoor blade. Whenever I go hiking etc, the F1 is with me.
    Together with the Glock FM 78 it's my standard outdoor combo.
    Last edited by ml100; 06-24-2013 at 12:34 AM.

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    pics added

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    if only real world duty knives could talk!
    would they say,"been there done that?"
    thank's for sharing the pictures.
    soldier on...

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    Victorinox Soldier Knife




    Bundeswehr (German Forces) and Swiss Army (of cause with the Swiss having the Swiss Cross instead of the German Eagle on the scales)

    Typical Victorinox, high quality, excellent finish.
    Blade: liner lock, 85 mm long

    however tragic: the tooth pic and the tweezers in the scales are missing


    BTW: please some support to that threat, there must be more military issued knives around.
    Last edited by ml100; 06-03-2013 at 04:55 AM.

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    The good ole' Mk2 fighting/utility knife. Commonly known as a KA-BAR for the most famous maker of this knife though several companies produced it during WW2.

    Issued to United States Marine Corps and United States Navy

    7" Clip point blade

    1095 Cro-Van steel

    Like the glock but with full length tang pinned onto steel pommel at the bottom.

    Pros: Everything

    Cons: Leather handle can rot

    *Kabar also produces a modern version of the knife with a rubberized synthetic handle.*

    Can't believe I'm the 1st to mention the KA-BAR
    Last edited by stvpourciau; 06-03-2013 at 05:36 AM.

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    Your aged Ka-bar looks cool. How old is it?

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    the victorinox model 3.0224.3CCH - Spirit-X BO CC
    spirit "X" black-oxide coated with basting-cap crimper
    apparently the militarized version of the spirit
    officially in use by the swiss and who else?
    i understand that black coating is not actually black oxide
    but some kind of burnished finishing?
    which explains why it leaves slight dark stains on palms and fingers...
    so ml100, u have some pictures for that?

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    The Norwegian Army and the Australien Army are using a black oxidized Swisstool.
    But sorry, no pics, I still have a Leatherman Wave, that served me over more then a decade.
    Last edited by ml100; 06-04-2013 at 06:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml100 View Post
    Your aged Ka-bar looks cool. How old is it?
    This particular one is not mine, grabbed from google, however I do have one identical to it.

    The knife photographed is a WW2 issued Navy Mark2 F/U Knife made by KA-BAR.

    All the old WW2 issued ones look pretty much the same in better or worse condition. I really like the sheath this one comes in compared to the standard leather sheath you see on KA-BARs. That sheath is also WW2 Government Issue and is some type of hard plastic with nylon webbing for the belt loop.

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    Btw if you want to buy a modern produced KA-BAR and like the sheath photographed, the sheath is also reproduced nowadays but not by KA-BAR. I believe Boker reproduces this sheath for their U.S. Army Mk3 Fighting Knives also used in WW2.

    It was a double edged dagger type knife constructed in the same manner as the Mark 2.

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    "ml100"
    ah yes!
    the robust swisstool !
    the undisputed rolls royce of multitools.
    btw, if you're into military knives;
    you seriously need to read up the wealth of material below...
    http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/archive_writing.htm

    "stvpourciau"
    the US Navy mk2 / usmc kabar
    http://www.militaryfightingknives.co...ion.html#Kabar
    has different dimensions from the m3 trench knife
    and the subsequent m4 thru m7 usgi bayonets.
    http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayo_points_18.htm

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    @GIRLYman. Thank you for the link. Guess it takes some time reading through all that.

    In the meantime I hope someone will add some pics to this thread. I have two more knives to show.
    Last edited by ml100; 06-04-2013 at 07:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIRLYmann View Post

    "stvpourciau"
    the US Navy mk2 / usmc kabar
    http://www.militaryfightingknives.co...ion.html#Kabar
    has different dimensions from the m3 trench knife
    and the subsequent m4 thru m7 usgi bayonets.
    http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayo_points_18.htm
    I'm sure it does, but that spacious G.I. type sheath might still fit..
    No guarantees, it was just a suggestion.

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    sorry for hijacking this thread ml100

    hi stvpourciau !
    a ww2 purpose built usn mk2 sheath fits the k-bar
    http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0
    here are some details on it...
    http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/sh...Bar-Info-help&
    anyhow, the od green m8 scabbard for the m7 bayonet and its past variants
    was superseded by the all black plastic m10 scabbard
    http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Ide...series_p2.html

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    @Girlyman. Don't worry , I'll bring it back on track the next weekend.

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    Hirschkrone Pilot Knife



    German Air Force

    Steel: usually 1.4116 stainless, the one shown in the pic is C64 carbon steel version
    Blade length: 6.3 in.
    Blade thickness: 0.22 in.
    Hardness: 58 HRC
    Full tang.



    Initially the Pilot Knives were made by PUMA, later Hirschkrone took over.

    Compared to other issued pilot knives, the Hirschkrone knife is a beast:

    Detailled review will follow.
    Last edited by ml100; 06-24-2013 at 01:16 AM.

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    Here's my Fallkniven A1. Adopted by the Swedish Army as their official survival knife. This thing is incredible. It holds an edge like no other knife I have. As for the coating, I actually like the way it looks when it wears. I mean, how cool does that look??


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    The Al Mar was specially designed for Special Forces (don't know if it was ever issued), the Gerber MKI my father acquired as a gift from a SEAL he rescued (more than a few years ago).
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/29th_ID_SSI.svg/329px-

    Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

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