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    Nubatamas....the hype......


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    Ok, being an avid sharpener & always on the lookout for increased performance stones, the Nubatamas caught my attention with their launch.

    Right from the outset I was terribly confused with the enormous amount of very small grit increments (they keep coming relentlessly) as well as some of the pricing.

    So many variations leads to confusion & doubt.

    Obviously marketed by the dealer, explanations, motivational videos & retorts are fast, forthcoming & smoothed with sales talk depicting Shaptons & Choseras as "close second & third best"......?????

    Having read most of the posts relating this matter, I have recorded some conflicting advice of the same stone......

    Is there someone out there that has actually worked through the various stone brands that can honestly supply an unbiased review, comparable with pictures (to the existing fraternity of stones), for us uninformed contemplating to purchase, we need to make informed decisions, and opinions from the dealer does not really cut it?

    Please understand that I am not knocking this product, all I am saying, is that it is now being marketed as "the berries", where previously different tunes were sung - are they really that good??

    Furthermore, the issue of origin has been purported as "proprietary"......hellooo, Shapton is Shapton & Chosera is Chosera.......do the Google search thingy......tooooooo little original information available for Nubatama....????

    I need some serious, honest advice here from a reputable user which has run the mill.....how else does one measure the milestone.....??

    Just being inquisitive - don't get me wrong please.

    I anxiously await some substantiated comment here......

    PS: NO sales pitch please!


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    Good thing I looked at your name, I was just about to send you a PM asking if you had heard anything about them.

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    Hey, Rookie

    Nice to see ya here!

    Yes, they are that good.

    If you like how a natural stone works then you will love Nubatama.

    The biggest advantage is speed and the ability to produce a kasumi type finish.
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    Ok, thx for the info.


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    I asked about Nubatama stones and store owner from Japan sent me this answer:


    With regard to Nubatama stones, no we cannot get them and have no
    intention of doing so. I have not tried these stones myself, but I have
    heard about them and seen them used on video and cannot see any evidence
    that they are in any way superior to the stones we already make
    available and there are limits to what a sharpening stone can actually
    accomplish, which many of the stones we currently sell get very close
    to. For the Nubatama stones to be superior, they would have to exceed
    the abilities of the materials they are made from, which is impossible.

    That's a long winded way of me saying we can't get them and it's not
    worth trying to.

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    Interesting, thank you arnisb.


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    Quote Originally Posted by arnisb View Post
    I asked about Nubatama stones and store owner from Japan sent me this answer:


    With regard to Nubatama stones, no we cannot get them and have no
    intention of doing so. I have not tried these stones myself, but I have
    heard about them and seen them used on video and cannot see any evidence
    that they are in any way superior to the stones we already make
    available and there are limits to what a sharpening stone can actually
    accomplish, which many of the stones we currently sell get very close
    to. For the Nubatama stones to be superior, they would have to exceed
    the abilities of the materials they are made from, which is impossible.

    That's a long winded way of me saying we can't get them and it's not
    worth trying to.
    While all information is useful, I would take that answer with a grain of salt. He is basically saying, "a product we are not capable of selling and have not used is not better than the products we can sell you." That's a smart business answer, but leaves some actual feedback on quality and use to be desired.

    I haven't used the Nubatama's either, but I have one on the way. I like that they have so many grits available (finding stones under 100 grit is hard), and while they are not cheap, you have to consider the size of most of them too. Most of them are brick size and offer twice the stone material than the other brands.

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    True - noted.


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    Again about Nubatamas
    I can't find any information about manufacturer !?
    Is it huge secret ?

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    I can't find any information about manufacturer !?
    Is it huge secret ???

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    Exactly! - I get really wary when there is not enough good info on the product I want to buy.....why hide it so...???


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    Quote Originally Posted by arnisb View Post
    I asked about Nubatama stones and store owner from Japan sent me this answer:


    With regard to Nubatama stones, no we cannot get them and have no
    intention of doing so. I have not tried these stones myself, but I have
    heard about them and seen them used on video and cannot see any evidence
    that they are in any way superior to the stones we already make
    available and there are limits to what a sharpening stone can actually
    accomplish, which many of the stones we currently sell get very close
    to. For the Nubatama stones to be superior, they would have to exceed
    the abilities of the materials they are made from, which is impossible.

    That's a long winded way of me saying we can't get them and it's not
    worth trying to.

    All his stones suck... What kind of stones does he carry?
    The first sharpening
    The Burr
    How to make a strop


    For sharpening inquiries email me at: traditionalsharpening@gmail.com
    Free return shipping on orders over $50

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadRookie View Post
    Exactly! - I get really wary when there is not enough good info on the product I want to buy.....why hide it so...???

    I'm going to bet Nubatama makes them...
    The first sharpening
    The Burr
    How to make a strop


    For sharpening inquiries email me at: traditionalsharpening@gmail.com
    Free return shipping on orders over $50

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    Quote Originally Posted by knifenut1013 View Post
    All his stones suck... What kind of stones does he carry?
    Tools from Japan store - I think he carry good quality stones only ...

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