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    It looks to me like that blade was originally built to take a double-guard. I wonder if it ever had one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Black View Post
    It looks to me like that blade was originally built to take a double-guard. I wonder if it ever had one?
    It really does looks like it with the gap between the scales and where the plunge grind is, its always possible my uncle removed it because such a guard would get in the way of skinning, he lived up in the mountains by himself and hunted and trapped for skins till he was 94ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Black View Post
    That's great information my friend Do you know if Eggington's acquired the mark too? It sounds like you have a good friend there, and an invaluable source of information
    Egginton's did buy the name, so Steven does not refer to it when selling NOS (and I won't say where he does so, since he is not a member). He is indeed a great guy, he never really seems aware of the significance of S&W in post WWII England. The only pocket knives I saw in actual use when I lived in the UK in the mid 90's were S&W products, the little two blade key chain advert knives especially. I was not out in the country much though, pretty much urban and surbuban living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobenn7 View Post
    It really does looks like it with the gap between the scales and where the plunge grind is, its always possible my uncle removed it because such a guard would get in the way of skinning, he lived up in the mountains by himself and hunted and trapped for skins till he was 94ish

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    Is there enough extra room in the scabbard to accommodate a guard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobenn7 View Post
    It really does looks like it with the gap between the scales and where the plunge grind is, its always possible my uncle removed it because such a guard would get in the way of skinning, he lived up in the mountains by himself and hunted and trapped for skins till he was 94ish
    It's also possible it had a ferrule rather than a guard. Your uncle sounds like an interesting guy. See you had loads of information really!

    I've been looking at some other TEW knives from the same period, which have checkered gutta percha for scales.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bartleby View Post
    Egginton's did buy the name, so Steven does not refer to it when selling NOS (and I won't say where he does so, since he is not a member). He is indeed a great guy, he never really seems aware of the significance of S&W in post WWII England. The only pocket knives I saw in actual use when I lived in the UK in the mid 90's were S&W products, the little two blade key chain advert knives especially. I was not out in the country much though, pretty much urban and surbuban living.
    There were certainly a lot of them about, and I imagine they made a lot of the 'anonymous' Sheffield advertising knives too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartleby View Post
    Is there enough extra room in the scabbard to accommodate a guard?
    It looks like it wpuld still easily fit with one but I dont think it is the original?

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    Jack, They also did a lot of blade blanking and parts stamping for the name brands as well, especially once the old forgers got to be in short supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Black View Post
    It's also possible it had a ferrule rather than a guard. Your uncle sounds like an interesting guy. See you had loads of information really!

    I've been looking at some other TEW knives from the same period, which have checkered gutta percha for scales.





    There were certainly a lot of them about, and I imagine they made a lot of the 'anonymous' Sheffield advertising knives too
    Ya he was one hellofa man that's for sure! Iv never seen some one work as hard as him! And haha ya I guess so, my grandfather doesn't remember him using the knife but doesn't mean it didmt get it's use haha he did have quite a few knifes! But a ferrule sounds possible as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobenn7 View Post
    It looks like it wpuld still easily fit with one but I dont think it is the original?

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    The sheath looks like it would if it was original, does not look home made. If the owner was an outdoorsman he probably would have made his own, but the metal tip looks like it was made by a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartleby View Post
    Jack, They also did a lot of blade blanking and parts stamping for the name brands as well, especially once the old forgers got to be in short supply.
    Yes, I can imagine

    Quote Originally Posted by cobenn7 View Post
    Ya he was one hellofa man that's for sure! Iv never seen some one work as hard as him! And haha ya I guess so, my grandfather doesn't remember him using the knife but doesn't mean it didmt get it's use haha he did have quite a few knifes! But a ferrule sounds possible as well!
    THat looks like a well-used knife

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartleby View Post
    The sheath looks like it would if it was original, does not look home made. If the owner was an outdoorsman he probably would have made his own, but the metal tip looks like it was made by a factor.
    A lot of TEW Bowies from that period have sheaths tipped like that, but the sheath could have been repaired or even re-made. Be interesting to see a bit more of the sheath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartleby View Post
    The sheath looks like it would if it was original, does not look home made. If the owner was an outdoorsman he probably would have made his own, but the metal tip looks like it was made by a factor.
    Ya that kinda what I figured, as the stiching is different from the actually part the surrounds thr blade and the piece added on for the belt loop

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    That almost looks like a sheath in a frog. Is the 'frog' section wider internally than the lower section, or does it just fit around the inner sheath?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Black View Post
    Yes, I can imagine



    THat looks like a well-used knife



    A lot of TEW Bowies from that period have sheaths tipped like that, but the sheath could have been repaired or even re-made. Be interesting to see a bit more of the sheath
    Ya it looks like it seen a few sharpenings! I noticed the "W" on the witness stamp by the tang is worn off and from what it looks like from lookomg a few other similar knifes the Sheffield under the "real eye witness knife" is missing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Black View Post
    That almost looks like a sheath in a frog. Is the 'frog' section wider internally than the lower section, or does it just fit around the inner sheath?
    Yes I can slide it off if I wantes to

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    It's unusual that it doesn't say 'Sheffield' on the knife

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobenn7 View Post
    Yes I can slide it off if I wantes to
    That's a frog Does the internal part of the sheath look like it's been shortened or do you think it's the original length?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Black View Post
    It's unusual that it doesn't say 'Sheffield' on the knife
    My guess is that it has just be ground down through sharpining over the years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Black View Post
    That's a frog Does the internal part of the sheath look like it's been shortened or do you think it's the original length?
    Its hard to tell, I couldn't say to be honest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobenn7 View Post
    My guess is that it has just be ground down through sharpining over the years
    Those are deep stamps, and I think you'd still be able to see evidence of it. You don't always see 'Sheffield' on old Sheffield knives. It was, and is, frequently left off certain knives aimed at the Scottish market too, and it is not always found on military knives too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Black View Post
    Those are deep stamps, and I think you'd still be able to see evidence of it. You don't always see 'Sheffield' on old Sheffield knives. It was, and is, frequently left off certain knives aimed at the Scottish market too, and it is not always found on military knives too.
    True enough! That does make sense with the whole Scotts vs the English thing, never been the best of mates haha

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