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    russian military knives-russian federation?


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    Hello, this is my first post and its probably not the correct spot to put it but since this site is a little confusing to someone new, here it goes anyway.
    i was searching for a current russian military knife, god knows how i came across this site but i located what appears to me to be russian knives. anyone have any info or know anything about these? if they can be purchased here in america and who might sell them. thanks for any help.
    http://www.sposn.ru/knife.html
    http://www.sposn.ru/knife/knife-02.html
    http://www.sposn.ru/knife/knife-03.html

    in particular i am looking for the knife marked "Кайзер-2" on page 2. thanks in advance for any help or insights.

    dan

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    Kaiser-2.

    We have a few Russians on Bladeforums who will hopefully pop up soon with the information you're looking for.

    Meanwhile, welcome to the forums! Pull up a chair and stay awhile!

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    Ha! I just looked at that second page ... just above the Kaiser-2 is the "Byk", the Bull -- it's a Tracker knife.

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    There is no such thing as Russian military knife. I mean Russian military do not have knife as a standart issue - only AK bayonet. Several companies making knives for military and in military style SpecOsnashenie, Kizlyar, etc... Kizlar has model made by design provided by military. As you may see they in general are made of 65x13 which is like 440A (Carbon-0.65%).

    Consider that Russian military was not really well equiped after collapse of SU. Only last few years they got some attention from government. But they focus on maneurable warheads and Su-35 not on knives.

    The knives you are looking for Kaizer is no really military - it has not guard, it is considered by Russian law as hunting knife most likely and this is why it is OK to sell it.

    Here two Russian Company are present Kizlyar and RosArms. Best place to find them -

    http://www.worldknives.com/

    as well as many other knives from abroad.

    I like RosArms - they use 110x18MSHD steel which is Russian stainless ball bearing steel for space and milytary industry - same as BG42 here.

    They have their representative here in US

    http://www.rosarmsusa.com/
    military knives - http://rosarmsusa.com/military.htm

    They recently bring pretty nice daggers here Torch, Dagger-I and Dagger-II.

    Here you may find pictures of my collection of RosArms:

    http://playground.sun.com/~vasya/RosArms-Fox-II.html
    http://playground.sun.com/~vasya/RosArms-Taiga.html
    http://playground.sun.com/~vasya/RusArms-Utes.html
    http://playground.sun.com/~vasya/RosArms-Bizon.html
    http://playground.sun.com/~vasya/RosArms-Edelveis.html
    http://playground.sun.com/~vasya/RosArms-Cadet.html
    http://playground.sun.com/~vasya/RosArms-Nona.html
    http://playground.sun.com/~vasya/RosArms-Ataman.html

    And here short review by real Russian operator
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    From Kvd70 (www.guns.ru bladeforum):

    "At 2000 Motherland sent me to official trip in one of southern republic. When I prepare for this trip I deside to buy knife and choose this one because it looks powerfull, reliable and has kind of predatory grace. It also fit my palm very well. It was not too big, not too heavy, not too ordinary looking. My colleagues that time toke big, massive knives - almost sabers or swords and then during deployment did not carry them at all - too heavy. Real life use for it was only branch chopping, whittling, cutting bread, beaf, ham... Most important bonus feature - because of wide blade you can scoop up a lot of canned beaf from can (almost more then with spoon), very usefull thing in a big famaly

    Only one combat situation - I used knife to resist kidnapping attempt on the marketplace. I look intellegent with glasses on my face, so two guys deside I'll be easy target. And I was exteremely lucky becase at that point already take knife away to test smoked beaf, so I reflectevely strike hands to release my gun and Cliff did not fail me. Second guy was so terrified that just freeze with his eyeballs popping out while the first one yell something to him. Then, after gun was released, I start shooting and gundown both, then my friends come to help. All take 10-15 seconds only."



    So this one as you can see save his owner life in combat situation. It is knid of Russian Solution, but with better steel and twice lighter (11.2oz vs 6.48oz)



    Thanks, Vassili
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    Quote Originally Posted by gewer98 View Post
    Hello, this is my first post and its probably not the correct spot to put it but since this site is a little confusing to someone new, here it goes anyway.
    i was searching for a current russian military knife, god knows how i came across this site but i located what appears to me to be russian knives. anyone have any info or know anything about these? if they can be purchased here in america and who might sell them. thanks for any help.
    http://www.sposn.ru/knife.html
    http://www.sposn.ru/knife/knife-02.html
    http://www.sposn.ru/knife/knife-03.html

    in particular i am looking for the knife marked "Кайзер-2" on page 2. thanks in advance for any help or insights.

    dan

    sorry man these knives arnt very good ............ i wouldnt touch them with 6 foot pole... at recent show i saw these guys had a crazy copy of the TOPS tracker knife... they had it hanging on a magnetic strip and some guy nocked it down and hit smashed him on the foot :O
    Last edited by ausjulius; 11-19-2006 at 03:22 AM. Reason: spllng

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    ok,, as vassili said,, russian military dosnt issue knives as standard..
    but sometimes the commanders buy large amounts form vraious makers...... like us . (here comes the add) www.kizlyar.ru/eng

    ctualy every week we have truckes of soliders drive here and buy them in the fctory some 100snd a week..
    however we also get many direct orders from the government aswell.
    last month we had some 100 daggers and hunting knives we made for them .. and some saw backed machetes...


    there is some knives that were made by various state factories for the military, like this scout pistol knife. but motly these are... exsotic things and are very very very uncommon..

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    Kizlyar has some nice knives, I handled them at the Belgian Knife Show. They are sold in Germany from this website: www.kizlyar-messer.de
    Perhaps they can also sell to the USA? The owners speak english so you can ask them. Some of the knives are made from the Russian version of D2 steel and these have been favorably reviewed on the German forum.
    Kevin Wilkins
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    Live and Direct from Berlin, Germany

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    thanks . for the plug .........

    if you folks want ill post some fotos of the militry ordered knives we have in the factory later.........

    oh man nearly forgot,, today i saw that some solider ordered a damascus bladed utility knfie with a rubber handle :O .......... this is not the first time... .. and i realy dont see why anyone would want it ???? but it looks kind of interesting.... .. or weird,

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