I think what nutnfancy doesn't know would take up even more words than he uses already. I have never seen any other single person say so little in so much.
On the contrary, I've been cut by my Navy k631 that has choil, because taking it for granted, I was holding it too far down so the finger is no longer catching the choil but the edge (operator error).
Having no choil, the Resilience I have forces me to be more careful when closing every time, thus no cut from closing it. I got cut by it but not from closing, so it doesn't count here.
Last edited by Chris "Anagarika"; 07-04-2012 at 08:00 PM.
I have no experience with the Tenacious, but being new to knives, I am much more comfortable using a knife with a finger choil, such as with the Chaparral or PM2.
No problems with mine. It locks up fine.
I usually practice closing knives one handed, I go slow and try to figure out where potential slips could occur. Then I practice until I feel comfortable and confident that I won't nick myself.
I've used linerlock knives for 20 years, my Tenacious is the first one that has nicked me (no blood). I think it is because the blade is very broad so the cutting edge reaches your thumb faster than it would with other knife geometries. I still like the knife and carry it, I will just be more careful with it.
Some guys may think this was unnecessary, but it gives me a little peace of mind. I like my fingers
As far as getting cut when opening or closing the Tenacious, just respect the knife, pay attention, and you'll be ok.
Last edited by delica77; 07-05-2012 at 02:11 PM.
If you're worried close it with 2 hands. Or you could just close it slowly. If you try to open and close it as fast as possible that's where accidents tend to happen. I also think switching EDCs often can be a problem. I carried a Sage 2 for while and got used to that choil. When I switched to a Gayle Bradley I had to be more careful because it doesn't have the same choil design so my thumbnail won't stop the blade from closing on my fingers.
Yea, after being used to a Sage or Para 2, I can see how someone might reach for the choil on a Tenacious and grab the blade. Dulling the a small part of the edge would work in that case. But I was more concerned about a potential lock failure causing the blade to close on my fingers.
I think the tenacious used to have a weak detent but spyderco fixed it. I don't know how true this is. My tenacious has a 'perfect' detent. I haven't cut my self closing it, even when practicing opening and closing the knife with speed. It has cut me quite deep, but it was user error. If your not used to it then you'll probably get bit if your not careful whilst closing it, due to the lack of ricasso or choil.
Some knife afi's believe that handle to blade/edge ratio is very important. We try to create many models to serve the preferences of our customers. Some like choils, some don't, some like humps, some don't, some like FRN, some don't. etc....
As long as the design is safe (built right), high performance, reliable, ergonomic and good value, we'll try it.
My Tenacious and Resilience are fine no detent problems at all they are tight
I thought the tenacious was made in China not France
Why not a flipper design for the Tenacious,Persistance,Resiliance models? would add a new flavor, build in finger guard, and get rid of the "finger guillotine" issue when closing the knife.
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