Shrade folder-tooth pick and tweezers?

[390beretta]

Probably 10-15 years back Schrade (Oldtimer) produced a single blade, carbon steel, gunstock pattern (I think). The distinguishing feature of the knife was that it had a tooth pick and tweezers in the handle, much like Victorinox. Can anyone give me the model number, a photo, or even suggest where I might find one in new/like new condition? Thanks

[Stelth]

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r....pages/96OT.htm
96OT
or
http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r....pages/97OT.htm
97OT
EBay has lots but don't get the chinese junk. Genuine Schrades in this pattern will be at least $50 or more.

edit:
I just noticed you specified SINGLE blade. These are both 2-bladed knives.

[390beretta]

Stelth, thanks for your reply! I guess I remembered wrong, it was tweezers and a needle, not a toothpick. Dangit! Need the toothpick! Do you happen to know if these were carbon steel? Thanks again!

[Stelth]

I believe all (or most) Old Timers have carbon steel blades...but with Schrade there are no absolutes.

[Big Barn]

I have a 960T (trapper) that has 2 blades with an awl & tweezers. Carbon steel.

[thatotherguy]

The needle was intended for use as a toothpick IMO.
The Chinese Schrades are actually decent knives, about the same level as Rough Rider. Decent, but not on the level of the US ones.

[Stelth]

The Chinese Schrades are actually decent knives, about the same level as Rough Rider. Decent, but not on the level of the US ones.

That statement is blasphemy here.

[jdracing]

I agree.
You seldom see the chinese ones with the blade tips missing.
i guess the cheap junk is made too soft?
Oh well,for a poor man i guess there good,at least you can
use em.
not that i am happy with them being made in China,but they do
hold up pretty well for a screwdriver,unlike the older ones did.

Please don't take this the wrong way,it is the truth even if no one
wants to hear it.
JD

That statement is blasphemy here.

[390beretta]

I happen to agree with the anti-chinese sentiment expressed here. Hard to find things nowadays not made there. Nothing against the people necessarily, just the idea that those jobs/products should be made here. WTF! Big Barn, what shape is your knife in? Is it carbon and would you sell it? Got a photo? I'd be happy to give you my email if you can send a couple. Thanks

[Peregrin]

Just a little reminder folks.

"Regardless of personal point of view, "China Bashing" is not welcome and will not be tolerated. Please discuss and critique the knives themselves...not the country of origin.
This applies to any "offshore" point of production."

This is taken from the " Guidelines For The Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades Sub-Forum" posted at the top of the Traditional home page. If you need to review these and keep them in mind, please do so.

[Bob W]

Here are pictures of the 96OT and 97OT. Both have the tools in the handle and both are carbon steel, but neither is a single blade knife.
There were some single-blade Old Timer trappers, but not with the tools in the handle.





Hope this helps.

[rprocter]

The 97OT was a late comer to the Schrade family as it first appears in the 2000 catalogue. It's one of my favorite Schrades. The saw blade has a tooth pattern that really works, saws through lumber or branches very aggressively. Once you start to carry a 97OT you find the saw comes in handy more frequently than you had previously thought. Plus a steel pick and tweezers are nice to have along. I've used the pick to mark a measurement before sawing. It's not as fat as a pencil.
I recently bought a China made 97OT just to see what it's like. To my surprise, it's a good knife, all of it, blade, saw and implements. Infact, side by side with a Schrade manufactured one, it's hard to say which is which.
The only other China Schrades i have bought were back a few years ago when they first came out. Those were pathetic knives with thin soft blades. If this 97OT is typical of the current China Schrades, they have improved hugely in the last few years.
roland

[thatotherguy]

Just a little reminder folks.

"Regardless of personal point of view, "China Bashing" is not welcome and will not be tolerated. Please discuss and critique the knives themselves...not the country of origin.
This applies to any "offshore" point of production."
This is taken from the " Guidelines For The Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades Sub-Forum" posted at the top of the Traditional home page. If you need to review these and keep them in mind, please do so.

Thank you. I was really not trying to start (or intend) any anti- China arguments. The knives themselves are good working knives. They are not on the level of the US made ones, and I don't think they will at this price point. I don't care where a knife is made, as long as it's decent quality.
That said, I do prefer American knives because of the fact that they are made in my home country and keeps money in the economy.

[Peregrin]

Thank you. I was really not trying to start (or intend) any anti- China arguments. The knives themselves are good working knives. They are not on the level of the US made ones, and I don't think they will at this price point. I don't care where a knife is made, as long as it's decent quality.
That said, I do prefer American knives because of the fact that they are made in my home country and keeps money in the economy.

My post wasn't pointed at anyone in particular. The thread was headed in the wrong direction and a course alteration was required. If I can I'd prefer to redirect the thread, as opposed to waiting until infractions are needed.

[Bob W]

I'd like to see some Schrade - vs - Taylor reviews with side by side comparisons and pictures. Not only for the curiosity of quality, but for the educational value of learning the differences. But that belongs in a new topic.

Here's a comparison review I did between an original Schrade Old Timer and a lookalike Rigid Executive:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...mitator-review

[thatotherguy]

My post wasn't pointed at anyone in particular. The thread was headed in the wrong direction and a course alteration was required. If I can I'd prefer to redirect the thread, as opposed to waiting until infractions are needed.

I was the one that started it in a way, so again, thanks for ending it.

[rprocter]

Bob, i too think a comparison, particularly if some cutting tests were included, would be interesting. I would sharpen up the blades on each first to see how they sharpened and then one could also find out about edge holding.
But the results might be pattern and age specific. Schrade USA was constant in materials, standards, etc. but i think Mr. Taylor has likely used more than one manufacturer in China. There may have been a 'learning curve' to find the knife manufacturing company that gives the best quality for each price point. i.e. i think there is a range of quality in the China Schrades as who made them likely has changed maybe even a number of times.
roland