Yea I thought the 6" blade length was to short also on them. My first one is going to have a longer blade. I have handled 2 of the tops big ones and when they came to me to be sharpened up I was like these are scrapers not cutting tools, They are now though lol. The edges just need to be thinned a little to make them like razors.
That was neat video of the fellow making the spoon with the little WSK.
Again it comes down to what ( you ) like. some like the WSK design and some do not.
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Whist I agree with “it comes down to what you like” from a liberty perspective there is a danger. Few people have the strength of character to separate performance from what they like. They usually try to obfuscate and muddy the waters. Happily not in this thread but it is not uncommon to also find folks in threads becoming obnoxious rather that assert “it is crap I just like it”. And mealy-mouthed bystander apathy doesn't help. As this guy asked rhetorically about photography ”If nothing is bad, can anything be good?”.
I've always wanted a WSK-esque machete. It would give you finger-level flat sections for carving shavings, skinning fruits and veggies and doing other fine tasks, a weight forward design for chopping efficiency, a working point for poking, drilling, digging, etc, and that cool curvy section for carving shafts, de-barking, etc. I think most of the issues with the WSK design is that the larger commercial versions are under 5 inches. If you stretch out the design a ways I'd bet it would accomplish most of the intended tasks with ease. Even the Beck version appears to be two inches longer than the TOPS Tracker.
Think WSK/SOG SEAL/300 saber crammed into a 14 inch package, with overall F&F along the lines of Kabar's Heavy Duty series, maybe with Tooj's handle or a handle similar to Beck's original with an indexed forefinger and swept pommel.
As far as 'one tool's, lots of people have been very efficient throughout history with one tool. Think of all the grunts that made it through World Wars 1 and II with a Kabar-style fighting knife or a bayonet, or all of the tropics-dwellers that live on a machete, or the Saami that get by with a Leuku. Most of the time if you take a quality tool and invest time into maintenance and using technique, you can get the job done. The WSK is just an attempt to streamline that process.
The Mora 2000 has been mentioned as a WSK in the past with its multiple grinds. I see my Frontier-style tomahawk as a WSK-IAWoodsman did a good demonstration an all the different ways you can manipulate a simple tomahawk head, and after all, they're basically a modified knife on an axe haft. There are ways to make this design work, it's just that when you're limited to 10 dollar Pakistan-made ninja toys, the overbuilt Tracker or the fraudulent-built Red Scorpion Six travesty, there isn't a practical design commercially/readily available.
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this might have been, or whether Rick's Bownana would have stuffed it anyway.04.50 - toes up
the blade profile in example C is near identical to an HI Tamang, and apparently of similar length.
i also really like me the old Machax design (not the Camillus). good stuff.
kinda wished i got one of these back in the day: "jensen elite blades"
but probably just as well, given that the guy didn't ship many and took money and ran...
seen some others, but mostly keeping my eyes open. maybe a good scorpion 6 sometime - decent Beck clone.
wouldn't touch a Tom Brown authorized Top's model unless it was super cheap or free. poor implementation of Beck's work
that said, yeah, i love that original version of the knife. lean and mean. the version that came much later (and had no basis in the movie) is a big old brute. people who thin them out tend to like them, but gah, bit of a club imho.
oh, and the new Machax... yeah, it's coming soon (not soon enough, days, weeks!) i've used the protos, and it's fast, and lean, and mean. should be interesting to get them in the field. Becker and KaBar probably have another winner.
I can't help but think this design would be better if the carving section went all the way back to near the handle and it did away with the ring finger part !
But then how will you gauge the serving size of your pasta when cooking for a group?
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Looks back to front to me though, why have the thick edge where you want to carve and the thin where you would chop ???
Lovely. And now we're back to knives ;-). I will say that for myself, even if we excluded all the artistry of your work and looked only at the design, I would sooner take designs such as you have there in a humble 440A than any of the WSKs in this thread regardless of what they could be made from including YXR7 and whatnot.
Scott Gossman made his version called the "Wilderness Survival Tool" or WST in multiple sizes. I do not have one... Yet!
I am going to be honest here. Nearly 90% of the the tools that Pitdog carries look ridiculous to me. They have silly names - and frankly I don't get them. Booshway? It sounds like a Pokemon' character or a super hero.
However, that fool gets more dirt time than I do - and loves to use his steel. I would trust him to get me a fire going and get a shelter made - so frankly I don't give a shit if he uses a crowbar to do it. He has fun - he makes designs that work for him - and he seems to be a great guy (hell - his dogs love him - he can't be all bad).
That is the same as how I feel about the WSK. Not for me. Too heavy - to thick - to gimmicky. But that is me.
When I am in the south - I carry two blades - one 4 inch Convex (Arete or Kephart) and a SAK. If I am in the North - I carry two blades - A Scandi (Arete or AS Woodlore) and a SAK. That is what I like to carry.
I get a bang out of seeing what Rick Marchand carries - his shit looks like a Samari sword and Jute twine had sex - but I know THAT fool get a lot of dirt time (or snow time) and I would trust him to get me shelter - fire - and food.... and download me some porn....
This comes down to what you are comfortable with and opinion.
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