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    Cruiser Axe - Your Definition?


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    Thought I would ask this question, seeing I have been getting a lot of mixed feedback from various sources and people.

    To you, what is a "cruiser axe" ?? Size, dimensions, etc. I have my own idea of what it is, but like I said, I would be interested to see what people have to say.

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    I always use it to refer to a small (2-2.5ish pound) double bit axe. I've been noticing people also referring to 2 pound single bits as cruisers. I would call them boy's axes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3mphis View Post
    I always use it to refer to a small (2-2.5ish pound) double bit axe. I've been noticing people also referring to 2 pound single bits as cruisers. I would call them boy's axes.
    I agree with M3.

    I'm a layman though in the axe world.
    The author of the Ax book mentions the tomahawk pattern "variously known as a cruising, trappers or Hudson Bay" ax.

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    M3mphis has my vote...

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    Someplace in the past I read the Cruiser pattern was favored by timber cruisers but when I worked on a U.S. Forest Service timber cruising crew, we used single bit boy's axes. The poll was good for sounding a trunk to see if it might be hollow.

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    That's just how I use the term. I have no idea what is "technically correct."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehill Gouger View Post
    Someplace in the past I read the Cruiser pattern was favored by timber cruisers but when I worked on a U.S. Forest Service timber cruising crew, we used single bit boy's axes. The poll was good for sounding a trunk to see if it might be hollow.
    Not to get the thread sidetracked, but what is the most highly regarded working axe within the USFS?

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    I'm years out of date on the U.S Forest Service but I don't remember anyone really worrying about it. We just used whatever was in the issue fire tool box. Double bit swampers and Pulaskies most of the time. The boys axes we used for cruising were an exception.
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    M3mphis described it. Although I think if I was a timber cruiser, I'd prefer a single bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehill Gouger View Post
    Someplace in the past I read the Cruiser pattern was favored by timber cruisers but when I worked on a U.S. Forest Service timber cruising crew, we used single bit boy's axes. The poll was good for sounding a trunk to see if it might be hollow.
    What exactly is "timber cruising"? I hear the term used most often to describe 2.5 lb double bits on 28in handles.

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    A timber cruiser is a scout. He's the guy who goes onto a parcel of land and determines how much merchanable timber is there. The board feet of the various species. This gives the potential buyer an idea of how much he should bid on the stumpage or standing timber. The cruiser does not mark the timber to be cut, but just figures out what is actually there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section10 View Post
    A timber cruiser is a scout. He's the guy who goes onto a parcel of land and determines how much merchanable timber is there. The board feet of the various species. This gives the potential buyer an idea of how much he should bid on the stumpage or standing timber. The cruiser does not mark the timber to be cut, but just figures out what is actually there.
    your right, but it depends. cruisers sometimes do mark the trees, at least around here...
    when i was in forestry school we would do 'mock' timber sales we would cruise a plot and also mark the trees to be felled at the same time... i just think it depends on the region or possibly even the company or gov. agency...
    the proff. that had us do this was also a employee of a very large timber company (plump creek), he only taught part time...

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    In my experience, if it is a marked sale, the foresters marked the trees. Of course that may vary as you say. They'd mark at breast height and low on the stump. Spray paint has made that job a lot easier now.

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    yeah, we marked the trees with flagging tape since they were mock sales... plus this was just for a class, so he may have been trying to 'kill two birds with one stone' doing both at the same time... ive never done it professionally...

    but back to the OP; for me the def. of a 'crusier' axe is a DB 2-2 1/2lb on a 28-30" haft...
    i generally dont consider a single bit as a crusing axe, as memphis said i consider an SB axe of similar size a 'boys axe'...
    not to say that a SB cant be called a crusier i just dont think of it that way...

    so, basically what memphis said...

    it also could be a regional thing as well...

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    A good friend of mine's father was an old time cruiser. He'd camp right in the woods for several days alone and work on very large tracts of land. It was a difficult and highly skilled job with tremendous responsibility since his report could make or break a company.

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    So I have seen double bit that measure say 6 inches from bit to bit called cruisers, say maybe 2 lbs if lucky, then seen double bits that measure 8 to 8 1/2 inches from bit to bit and approach 3 lbs also called cruisers - so where is the cutoff for "cruiser" distinction? Is there a cut off?
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    YesteryearsTools is in agreement with what's been posted here.

    cruiser: one who estimates the potential lumber yield from the standing timber on a specific tract of land and may mark out routes for accessing the area. (also: estimator)

    cruiser’s axe: a small version of a double bit axe designed to make markings by slashing the bark such as when blazing. (also: timber cruiser’s axe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Tall View Post
    YesteryearsTools is in agreement with what's been posted here.

    cruiser: one who estimates the potential lumber yield from the standing timber on a specific tract of land and may mark out routes for accessing the area. (also: estimator)

    cruiser’s axe: a small version of a double bit axe designed to make markings by slashing the bark such as when blazing. (also: timber cruiser’s axe)

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    I think if it's over 3lbs or over it's not a cruiser. Under 3lbs yes, regardless of head length but has to be a double bit. Don't know why anyone would call a single bit a cruiser?

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    Maybe because we used them cruising timber. Same goes for my time in the woods engineers of a major timber company. The standard "P-Line" axe on our survey crew was a single bit Collins 3/4.

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