Crazy 'Doomsday Prepper' loses gun rights

[brewcitymike]

One of the guys shown on the premier of Doomsday Preppers who has been mentioned quite a bit as one of the reasons the show more about crazies, has lost his gun rights after some stuff happened with his health. The video is him on one of the anti-government radio shows and the host is pretty out there with his rants and although some of the stuff he says is true he of course fails to explain why the government does some of the things they do.

I have many issues with out government for the way they can do things we will go to jail for and the way they can circumvent the law to punish us for petty offenses, but if push came to shove I would choose my American government over ANY country in the world(except maybe canada), and the few things they do that upset me are far out weighed by the things they do to help and protect me. Of course I do believe that we as Americans put too much reliance on the government to bail us out and bend over backwards to help us survive and that needs to change.

But anyway here's the video which I know some of you will have a hard time sitting through cuz the host is pretty irritating. Not his views but his loud interrupting personality. And if this is the wrong place to post this please feel free to move it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7O9FcUobZ8

[Esav Benyamin]

Well, of course it's the wrong place to put it. Political content goes in the Political Arena.

Your presentation does not quite match the requirements, but ... close enough for government work. And you do have a paid membership, so off to the Arena it goes.

[jdm61]

Funny. The government is able to declare you mentally incompetent because you rant about them on TV? Sure, this guy might be crazy, but that is a little scary. This could get interesting because clearly, this guy's allegedly crazy speech is of a political nature even if it does meet some legal standard for cuckoo.

[brewcitymike]

His mistake was saying they were holding him hostage and then saying he'd rather take his chances than have tubes put in. That on top of the suicide remark did him in. In my teen years I threatened to harm myself and they locked me up quick as they could and I've known several people who have been put on an ED(emergency detention) because they were thought to be a danger to themselves or others, and then they can keep you for up to 72 hrs for "observation" in which you damn sure better change your tone or play sane cuz at the end of the 72hr hold if they think you haven't improved then you're off to the residential ward. But when you go on tv and say that you'll shoot intruders if you think your supplies and or life is in danger, you rant and rave about then end being near and then you mention suicide, you have dug your own grave there. I still don't think they have the right to take his guns or more importantly his rights away but on the flipside I sure as sh!t wouldn't want his crazy ass living on my block. He's the kind of prepper that gives them a bad name. He's just a nut with an excuse to be nutty

[jdm61]

He's the kind of prepper that gives them a bad name.

LMAO!!! Is there a kind of prepper that gives the "movement" a GOOD name?

[quietmike]

LMAO!!! Is there a kind of prepper that gives the "movement" a GOOD name?

Ron(R.I.P.) and Karen Hood.

[Preacher Man]

Ron(R.I.P.) and Karen Hood.

Touché.

[Esav Benyamin]

Ron(R.I.P.) and Karen Hood.

Good point. Everyone who does similar things is not necessarily an ideological twin of others sharing some behavior patterns.

During the Y2K period, a neighbor of mine got caught up in storing supplies, preparing for the winter cold, got a pistol and practiced with it. As he said, all useful gear and skills for any emergency. We do get floods and blackouts that being prepared helps to get over. And all the freeze dried rations he stored went to supplementing his normally hurried meals -- he worked long and sometimes irregular hours normally.

I was leary of his preparations at first, but he wan't hysterical about them. He WAS thorough, though.

[quietmike]

Prepping is no different than having fire insurance for your house. You hope it never happens, but it is prudent to take precautions, just in case.

[Bigfattyt]

LMAO!!! Is there a kind of prepper that gives the "movement" a GOOD name?

Yup.

Every one that does not go shouting on national TV about how whey are prepared for the end of the world.

If a natural disaster happened here, and the government could not get here for weeks, months, or heck ever, because I am in a middle of nowhere podunk town that will never get government assistance in an emergency, I might or might not have more than 6 months of
food, water filtration, and a decent supply of guns and ammo.

I may or may not have a liquid fuel stove, and big charcoal/smoker/propane combo grill. I can cook what ever I need even if the power never comes back (at least until the local wood supply is denuded, which would take quite a while).


I may or may not have the ability to reload, and all the supplies I would need for that. I may or may not have the ability to make pretty decent knives, with no power at all.

I may or may not have family in my town with even more supplies (by a whole lot) including generator, etc, including a large supply of fire wood, for both heating and cooking.

My folks also have a garden that can grow a decent amount of fresh veggies. With the ability to grow a lot more if needed!


If that makes me crazy, then I guess I am. But at least my wife and kids won't starve in case of emergency.


What a lot of people also don't get about being prepared is that there are many situations that it comes in handy, outside emergencies or disasters.

If you have a few months, or even year worth of food (and know to make and enjoy the foods you store), and you loose your job you can live on what you have stored until you find a job again.

[Trent Rock]

I have infiltrated the preppers via several forums this last year
They are an interesting group of people...to say the least
The main things I have noticed are EXTREME pessimism, love of The Austrian School and distrust of govt...

The OP====>
I saw this dude telling his story on some Alex Jones YT video
I think there is more to the story
Alex Jones twisted it like it was some conspiracy to "keep down" the preppers by the govt

However, I did have a buddy (who sadly committed suicide later from metal illness..imho) who was subjected to the same thing
They locked him up for 72 hours (5150 in California police jargon)
And they took away his guns
He was in the process of trying to get them back
Was a pain in the butt
Hearings, court dates and such

Bottom line
Don't ever say (even in passing) that you want to harm yourself or others
That is the ONLY reason they can do the 72 hour lock down/psych evaluation
At least in California...

It's kind of a fine line
I don't like the thought of the govt deciding who and who is not "crazy"
Period. End of story.
They would have said Dali and Einstein were crazy!!!
Fine line between genius and insanity: study

I know in some states the govt can FORCE a person to take his meds
I think all you need it 2 doctors and a family members signing a slip of paper
I'm on the fence on this issue...

BTW..Alex Jones annoys me
That is all
Carry on men!!
Happy St. Patricks Day!!

[jdm61]

True...some try to keep it secret from The Man. LOL

Yup.

Every one that does not go shouting on national TV about how whey are prepared for the end of the world.

If a natural disaster happened here, and the government could not get here for weeks, months, or heck ever, because I am in a middle of nowhere podunk town that will never get government assistance in an emergency, I might or might not have more than 6 months of
food, water filtration, and a decent supply of guns and ammo.

I may or may not have a liquid fuel stove, and big charcoal/smoker/propane combo grill. I can cook what ever I need even if the power never comes back (at least until the local wood supply is denuded, which would take quite a while).


I may or may not have the ability to reload, and all the supplies I would need for that. I may or may not have the ability to make pretty decent knives, with no power at all.

I may or may not have family in my town with even more supplies (by a whole lot) including generator, etc, including a large supply of fire wood, for both heating and cooking.

My folks also have a garden that can grow a decent amount of fresh veggies. With the ability to grow a lot more if needed!


If that makes me crazy, then I guess I am. But at least my wife and kids won't starve in case of emergency.


What a lot of people also don't get about being prepared is that there are many situations that it comes in handy, outside emergencies or disasters.

If you have a few months, or even year worth of food (and know to make and enjoy the foods you store), and you loose your job you can live on what you have stored until you find a job again.

[jdm61]

Actually, it is very different. The bank that holds your mortgage does not require you to maintain a bug out bag.

Prepping is no different than having fire insurance for your house. You hope it never happens, but it is prudent to take precautions, just in case.

[quietmike]

Actually, it is very different. The bank that holds your mortgage does not require you to maintain a bug out bag.

Some folks don't need outside entities to tell them how to be responsible.

[phantom357]

I enjoy the prepper shows and the like for it's comedic and entertainment value. However, the growing commercialism of it now is sickening. A paradox??, ha ha ha.

I was at a gun show yesterday and the volume of "Zombie & Prepper" gear was unbelievable compared to previous shows. To me, true preppers prepare under the cover of darkness & only a handful of likeminded people know what they are doing. I tell you what, those tv preppers will be the first ones to get hit when the turds hit the fan.

[jdm61]

Well the upside might be that the Zombie and Prepper gear might replace some of the Nazi memorabilia, cheap Chinese knives and exotic jerky at gun shows.

I enjoy the prepper shows and the like for it's comedic and entertainment value. However, the growing commercialism of it now is sickening. A paradox??, ha ha ha.

I was at a gun show yesterday and the volume of "Zombie & Prepper" gear was unbelievable compared to previous shows. To me, true preppers prepare under the cover of darkness & only a handful of likeminded people know what they are doing. I tell you what, those tv preppers will be the first ones to get hit when the turds hit the fan.

[jdm61]

Some folks don't need outside entities to tell them how to be responsible.

I think that loony websites count as outside entities.

[brewcitymike]

I'm actually more annoyed my Alex Jones than David Sarti cuz IMO he most likely has some kind of 'slowness' to him but I'm not a Dr. So for him I almost feel sorry but Jones is obviously intelligent and educated yet somehow is able to say and believe the crap he spits. For example a quote from the vid "the CIA run Nat Geo network". Nat Geo is one of the most respected mags and now networks in the country and around the world and to state that the are in any bias and 'controlled' is absurd. they have shown more taboo and out of the norm things then most, hell don't they even have a show called Taboo That network has gone above above and beyond to show things from every corner of the planet and to open our minds to as many cultures, traditions and even hobbies as they can. But anyway, Jones made comments about how meds are poison and how the govn't locks up parents who won't vaccinate their kids and so on. I'm not sure if the charge has ever even stuck but it is still extremely rare for the govn't to get involved in that issue and even then its only when the lack of vaccine cause numerous other kids to get sick. I do feel its a parents' right regarding vaccinations but if you opt out of it then you damn sure better not have your kid hanging around the playground or sneezing and coughing in a daycare or preschool. I still say that if Jones were told "hey if you hate the government here so much than move" he'd change his tome in a heartbeat.

[Shotgun]

IDK. Seems like maybe he IS crazy and shouldn't have guns. If he's not crazy then he's too dumb to have the guns IMO.

[555]

Good point. Everyone who does similar things is not necessarily an ideological twin of others sharing some behavior patterns.

During the Y2K period, a neighbor of mine got caught up in storing supplies, preparing for the winter cold, got a pistol and practiced with it. As he said, all useful gear and skills for any emergency. We do get floods and blackouts that being prepared helps to get over. And all the freeze dried rations he stored went to supplementing his normally hurried meals -- he worked long and sometimes irregular hours normally.

I was leary of his preparations at first, but he wan't hysterical about them. He WAS thorough, though.

I think preppers are ridiculed because their very actions are a no confidence vote against a system or Government/Secularism which many people have put their faith in.