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    If obama had another son...

    If the obama had another son would he look like this:



    Meet Shawn Tyson. He's another 17 year old kid from the Orlando area. Unlike Trayvon Martin however he's still alive today. His victims however (two British tourists) are not. It seems he gunned them down after it turned out that they didn't have any cash that he could take from them. I'm wondering why the obama didn't call the parents of the two young men that he killed and offer his condolences?

    Actually, that's not true I'm not wondering at all. I know exactly why the obama is involved in one case and not the other. You see there are no political points to be made, no base to shore up no wave of outrage to ride in the Tyson case. Therefore the obama is no where to be found. In my opinion this nicely illustrates what I've believed for some time, the obama is nothing more than a political ambulance chaser, always trying to make sure that the next crisis doesn't go to waste.

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    ....if you're so pissed about it, maybe you should exercise your rights as an American and try writing the President and bring this to his attention, or even national attention. Who knows, maybe he'll comment on it when you apply enough heat.

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    If Obama had another son, he might look like the one he had assassinated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quietmike View Post
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    If Obama had another son, he might look like the one he had assassinated.
    I know who the guy in the photoshop-lightened picture on the left is, but who is the guy on the right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timcsaw View Post
    I know who the guy in the photoshop-lightened picture on the left is, but who is the guy on the right?
    Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a 16 y.o. American citizen.
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    Slow news day on the Obama derangement front, I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Parker03 View Post
    ....if you're so pissed about it, maybe you should exercise your rights as an American and try writing the President and bring this to his attention, or even national attention. Who knows, maybe he'll comment on it when you apply enough heat.
    Why do I have to bring it to his attention? It's national news just like the other case. Why did he feel it appropriate to involve himself in one case and not the other?

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    Actually, the parents of the slain students did bring it to Obama's attention. Three times. No response.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ack-Obama.html

    We also know that this administration encourages lawlessness by ignoring the $10,000 bounty put out by the New Black Panthers for the capture of Zimmerman. They also purportedly circulated
    Wanted: Dead or Alive posters. Where's Eric Holder? Where's Obama? How about the "Kill George Zimmerman" twitter account? http://frontpagemag.com/2012/03/30/k...omment-page-1/
    Obama and Holder can jump into a local law enforcement case but can't seem to figure out what to do with nationally reported vigilantism and death threats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panella View Post
    Actually, the parents of the slain students did bring it to Obama's attention. Three times. No response.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ack-Obama.html

    We also know that this administration encourages lawlessness by ignoring the $10,000 bounty put out by the New Black Panthers for the capture of Zimmerman. They also purportedly circulated
    Wanted: Dead or Alive posters. Where's Eric Holder? Where's Obama? How about the "Kill George Zimmerman" twitter account? http://frontpagemag.com/2012/03/30/k...omment-page-1/
    Obama and Holder can jump into a local law enforcement case but can't seem to figure out what to do with nationally reported vigilantism and death threats.
    Or Spike Lee tweeting the wrong Zimmerman address, which is a class 3 felony in New York. Or that braying lardass, Roseanne Barr tweeting his parents address.
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    Obama, like most politicians, has an eye for opportunism. He will addressed those issues that most likely will earn him political points and help to strengthen his base. All politicians do this, not just Obama; this is nothing extraordinary. That been said, the fact this kind of behavior is what our politicians have descended to doesn't make it any less acceptable or moral. Whether Zimmerman is guilty or not is for a jury of his peers to decide, not the media, and this after a thorough investigation.

    It is reprehensible that some are taking to leak information about Zimmerman or his family before all the facts of the case are known. Showing old photos of the men involved instead of recent ones says something about the media and its involvement; they choose to present one man as an innocent victim and the other as a reprehensible extremist although recent photos show the opposite. In our system a man is innocent until proven guilty... that is unless it becomes politically expedient to ignore the law for the sake of ideological activism. As President, Obama is supposed to uphold the law and protect the constitution. In this situation he is not doing much of either.

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    Preacher, it is more subtle than that. Have you noticed how Mr. Martin is ALWAYS referred to as "Trayvon" like he was everyone's relative or friend and Mr. Zimmerman is NEVER called "George" but "Zimmerman" like he was.......well, a perp?
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    Obama, like most politicians, has an eye for opportunism. He will addressed those issues that most likely will earn him political points and help to strengthen his base. All politicians do this, not just Obama; this is nothing extraordinary. That been said, the fact this kind of behavior is what our politicians have descended to doesn't make it any less acceptable or moral. Whether Zimmerman is guilty or not is for a jury of his peers to decide, not the media, and this after a thorough investigation.

    It is reprehensible that some are taking to leak information about Zimmerman or his family before all the facts of the case are known. Showing old photos of the men involved instead of recent ones says something about the media and its involvement; they choose to present one man as an innocent victim and the other as a reprehensible extremist although recent photos show the opposite. In our system a man is innocent until proven guilty... that is unless it becomes politically expedient to ignore the law for the sake of ideological activism. As President, Obama is supposed to uphold the law and protect the constitution. In this situation he is not doing much of either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm61 View Post
    Preacher, it is more subtle than that. Have you noticed how Mr. Martin is ALWAYS referred to as "Trayvon" like he was everyone's relative or friend and Mr. Zimmerman is NEVER called "George" but "Zimmerman" like he was.......well, a perp?
    You are absolutely right. I missed that completely. That is the difference between the observations of a couch advocate and those of an experienced litigator. Thank you for pointing this to me; that is something now I know to look for in the future. This points to a deliberate agenda from the part of the media in the way they have chosen to cover this story. How can the legal representation of Mr Zimmerman deal with something like that, the media trying to manipulate public opinion against him even before a proper investigation starts? One thing is to question his story and call for an investigation, which I think is warranted, but trying to shape the opinions of a likely jury pool before a trial is even a possibility is another thing altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triton View Post
    If the obama had another son would he look like this:



    Meet Shawn Tyson. He's another 17 year old kid from the Orlando area. Unlike Trayvon Martin however he's still alive today. His victims however (two British tourists) are not. It seems he gunned them down after it turned out that they didn't have any cash that he could take from them. I'm wondering why the obama didn't call the parents of the two young men that he killed and offer his condolences?

    Actually, that's not true I'm not wondering at all. I know exactly why the obama is involved in one case and not the other. You see there are no political points to be made, no base to shore up no wave of outrage to ride in the Tyson case. Therefore the obama is no where to be found. In my opinion this nicely illustrates what I've believed for some time, the obama is nothing more than a political ambulance chaser, always trying to make sure that the next crisis doesn't go to waste.
    The real reason Obama didn't comment on this case is because the system worked. Shawn Tyson was arrested and charged with the murders, tried on the charges and received a sentence of life in prison. Had Tyson, instead, been picked up by a gaggle of black cops, questioned, made a ridiculous "they made me kill them" defense and, subsequently, been released with no charges and the murder weapon then you might have some argument if Obama had not commented on the affair.

    Quote Originally Posted by Triton View Post
    Why do I have to bring it to his attention? It's national news just like the other case. Why did he feel it appropriate to involve himself in one case and not the other?
    See above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher Man View Post
    Obama, like most politicians, has an eye for opportunism. He will addressed those issues that most likely will earn him political points and help to strengthen his base. All politicians do this, not just Obama; this is nothing extraordinary. That been said, the fact this kind of behavior is what our politicians have descended to doesn't make it any less acceptable or moral. Whether Zimmerman is guilty or not is for a jury of his peers to decide, not the media, and this after a thorough investigation.

    It is reprehensible that some are taking to leak information about Zimmerman or his family before all the facts of the case are known. Showing old photos of the men involved instead of recent ones says something about the media and its involvement; they choose to present one man as an innocent victim and the other as a reprehensible extremist although recent photos show the opposite. In our system a man is innocent until proven guilty... that is unless it becomes politically expedient to ignore the law for the sake of ideological activism. As President, Obama is supposed to uphold the law and protect the constitution. In this situation he is not doing much of either.
    Except in this case Obama was not being opportunistic. He merely made a human comment designed to offer some small comfort regarding a tragedy. The people who would read some sort of intent at racial division into his comments are, at best, misguided.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdm61 View Post
    Preacher, it is more subtle than that. Have you noticed how Mr. Martin is ALWAYS referred to as "Trayvon" like he was everyone's relative or friend and Mr. Zimmerman is NEVER called "George" but "Zimmerman" like he was.......well, a perp?
    Or, could it be the child, as is typical with children, is called by the first name and the adult is afforded the respect normally afforded adults and referred to as Mr. (insert murderer's last name here)?
    And man's greatest labor so far has been to reach agreement about very many things and to submit to a law of agreement-regardless of whether these things are true or false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lepto View Post
    Except in this case Obama was not being opportunistic. He merely made a human comment designed to offer some small comfort regarding a tragedy. The people who would read some sort of intent at racial division into his comments are, at best, misguided.
    I didn't read anything racial in his comment. I'm just not sure the comment was an attempt at comfort to the family and not a statement of political convenience. It is not that it is Obama; it is that many politicians, regardless of ideology, use external situations to make statements for their own political convenience.

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    mr. t. martin was hardly the thirteen year old diminutive lad shown in all the media photos. he was a tattooed 6 ft. 3 in. ex football player who had a history the apologists don't want you to hear about. mr. zimmerman was not a burly 'white' hispanic, anymore than mr. o'bama is a white african.

    Why aren’t you being told that: (source linky)

    Travyon Martin was witnessed to be on top of George Zimmerman before he was shot?
    George Zimmerman was cut in the back of his head and had his nose bloodied by Trayvon Martin.
    Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for vandalism and caught with marijuana, stolen jewelry & burglary tools.
    Trayvon Martin was either giving or selling weed to his friends?
    Why haven’t you seen pictures of Trayvon and his gold teeth?
    Why haven’t you seen Travyon and his tattoos he shared on Twitter & MySpace?
    Why is no one talking about Travyon being suspended multiple times from school?
    Why isn’t anyone talking about Trayvon fighting and swinging at a bus driver?
    Why has Trayvon’s picture in his hoodie been digitally altered to make his skin look bright and soft?
    Why isn’t anyone talking about the fact that Trayvon beat up George Zimmerman?
    When Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman collided, why was he out so late at 3:00am walking in the rain?

    also the 911 tapes are interesting. the media hyped that it was mr. martin shouting for help, while the actuality appears to be that poor little 'georgey' was actually the one shouting.

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    a somewhat more recent 'trayvon' photo

    anyhow, all the facts are not yet in, the trial by media smacks of mob rule. and the commercialization and political point scoring by certain highly placed politicians is outrageous. trayvon's family cashing in on that commercialization is also amoral.
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    Actually official police reports say that the incident occurred around 7 PM, so that site isn't entirely without bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronckew View Post
    mr. t. martin was hardly the thirteen year old diminutive lad shown in all the media photos. he was a tattooed 6 ft. 3 in. ex football player who had a history the apologists don't want you to hear about. mr. zimmerman was not a burly 'white' hispanic, anymore than mr. o'bama is a white african.

    Why aren’t you being told that: (source linky)

    Travyon Martin was witnessed to be on top of George Zimmerman before he was shot?
    George Zimmerman was cut in the back of his head and had his nose bloodied by Trayvon Martin.
    Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for vandalism and caught with marijuana, stolen jewelry & burglary tools.
    Trayvon Martin was either giving or selling weed to his friends?
    Why haven’t you seen pictures of Trayvon and his gold teeth?
    Why haven’t you seen Travyon and his tattoos he shared on Twitter & MySpace?
    Why is no one talking about Travyon being suspended multiple times from school?
    Why isn’t anyone talking about Trayvon fighting and swinging at a bus driver?
    Why has Trayvon’s picture in his hoodie been digitally altered to make his skin look bright and soft?
    Why isn’t anyone talking about the fact that Trayvon beat up George Zimmerman?
    When Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman collided, why was he out so late at 3:00am walking in the rain?

    also the 911 tapes are interesting. the media hyped that it was mr. martin shouting for help, while the actuality appears to be that poor little 'georgey' was actually the one shouting.

    Clipboard01.jpg
    a somewhat more recent 'trayvon' photo

    anyhow, all the facts are not yet in, the trial by media smacks of mob rule. and the commercialization and political point scoring by certain highly placed politicians is outrageous. trayvon's family cashing in on that commercialization is also amoral.
    Many of the "facts" reported on that site are in dispute. Yes, I realize that there is now a rush to demonize Martin in order to bolster Zimmerman's self defense claim. And the details of Zimmerman's past are not entirely flattering either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronckew View Post
    mr. t. martin was hardly the thirteen year old diminutive lad shown in all the media photos. he was a tattooed 6 ft. 3 in. ex football player who had a history the apologists don't want you to hear about. mr. zimmerman was not a burly 'white' hispanic, anymore than mr. o'bama is a white african.

    Why aren’t you being told that: (source linky)

    Travyon Martin was witnessed to be on top of George Zimmerman before he was shot?
    George Zimmerman was cut in the back of his head and had his nose bloodied by Trayvon Martin.
    Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for vandalism and caught with marijuana, stolen jewelry & burglary tools.
    Trayvon Martin was either giving or selling weed to his friends?
    Why haven’t you seen pictures of Trayvon and his gold teeth?
    Why haven’t you seen Travyon and his tattoos he shared on Twitter & MySpace?
    Why is no one talking about Travyon being suspended multiple times from school?
    Why isn’t anyone talking about Trayvon fighting and swinging at a bus driver?
    Why has Trayvon’s picture in his hoodie been digitally altered to make his skin look bright and soft?
    Why isn’t anyone talking about the fact that Trayvon beat up George Zimmerman?
    When Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman collided, why was he out so late at 3:00am walking in the rain?

    also the 911 tapes are interesting. the media hyped that it was mr. martin shouting for help, while the actuality appears to be that poor little 'georgey' was actually the one shouting.

    Clipboard01.jpg
    a somewhat more recent 'trayvon' photo

    anyhow, all the facts are not yet in, the trial by media smacks of mob rule. and the commercialization and political point scoring by certain highly placed politicians is outrageous. trayvon's family cashing in on that commercialization is also amoral.
    Let's see, an unarmed 17 year old kid, who was not breaking any laws and was in a place he had every right to be, is killed by a 28 year old, armed adult (lamebrain-cop-wannabe would be more accurate) sporting a distinct weight advantage and who had been told, directly, by the authorities to refrain from pursuit of the "suspect". Given those facts it is easier to believe the unarmed dead kid is the likely villain rather than his killer might not be telling the whole truth? In any event, the issues pointed out in the referenced article are breathtaking in their idiocy and irrelevance. "Why haven’t you seen pictures of Trayvon and his gold teeth?" Jaysus, what racist claptrap.
    And man's greatest labor so far has been to reach agreement about very many things and to submit to a law of agreement-regardless of whether these things are true or false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lepto View Post
    Jaysus, what racist claptrap.
    Why is that your answer to every situation? Have you considered counseling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quietmike View Post
    Why is that your answer to every situation? Have you considered counseling?
    It's not my "answer" it's what it is. The author of the article should be ashamed he/she ever penned such trash; I doubt, however, they have that ability much less the inclination.
    And man's greatest labor so far has been to reach agreement about very many things and to submit to a law of agreement-regardless of whether these things are true or false.

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