Anybody know when the tiger striped versions are coming out?
My other knives Tilt, same thing. The pivot is hand tight and smooth as can be. It's actually smoother than my 0560. My large Sebenzas also have the pivot tightened down, and the action is smooth. From what I've read, this is how the knives are supposed to work.
Anybody know when the tiger striped versions are coming out?
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Also, like PURPLEDC said and in the realm of "you can't please everybody...", I'd be willing to trade my regular detent for a detent from hell. My detent is not as strong as my Gen 4 XM and I wish it was.
Last thing, tightening down the pivot most assuredly has an effect on how well it flips.
Just got my 560,and it is amazing! I don't see what the big deal is with the detent, it's not that hard to flip open. It certainly is stiffer then the tilt, but no where near as stiff as my HTM Gunhammer is.
At KAI USA, we pride ourselves on providing excellent customer service. If you are concerned with the detent on your 0560, feel free to send it in, and our warranty department will be happy to adjust it for you.
I think it is very difficult to determine what is a "normal" is for a flipper knife. Remember, your comment is really just an opinion, not a statement of fact. There are plenty of custom makers that build their knives with an equal or stronger detent to what you encountered on the 0560. We chose to build this knife with a stronger detent to help the knife open quickly, and to make sure the knife stays closed. Ball bearing washers can make a knife open a little too easily if not countered with an appropriate detent.
I find it interesting that you think the XM-18 detent was so perfect. Are you aware that the new 4th generation XM-18 flippers have been switched over to a stronger detent? However, I'd rather not drag Rick's knife into this discussion. We're talking about the 0560/0561 here.
You are welcome to post your review in this forum, but I would recommend a level-headed approach when you write it. I struggle to understand why the detent on your knife would warrant such a vehement and emotional response. Positive and negative feedback are both welcome here, but you'll get a better response with a civil tone and some explanation of the reasons behind your opinions.
Honestly i love that the detent is soo strong on this knife. Cant be opened by centrifugal force=legal NYC carry. I couldnt be happier and am eagerly awaiting their restock.
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And bearings are great, but it is possible in general to overtighten them and have drag... Which is bad for the bearings and the races, so try not to.
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When I bought my 0560, I tried two different ones and I picked the one with the stronger detent. I liked the feel when it snapped out and locked.
Even though I doubt it would ever happen, it just crossed my mind while flipping the other that the blade my flop out on it's own.
My 2 cents.
I love my 0560 and carry it almost every day.
funny thread, that guy must be a pleasure to live with.
I think that there are unfortunately some rare production issues, which is probably true of any production knife. I also bought a NIB 0560 recently and returned it after a couple days because the blade was not centered and it made a kind of scraping noise when closing. Also it often stopped 3/4 of the way when flipping open. I took it apart to look for anything unusual but everything looked clean. If I loosened the pivot to the point of getting a smooth non-friction opening with no blade play it was way off center. I had to tighten the pivot screw to the extreme to get the blade *almost* centered. I thought that maybe I should just keep it and that it would eventually break-in, but when I saw that most people were really happy with the 0560 right away I figured I'd better not take the chance. I will probably be trying a 0560 again someday because even with the problem it felt really good in my hand and I figured it had to be a very rare chance of bad luck...
My 0560 is a dream! I don't even need to flick my wrist to open her, that's how smooth she is.
It seems that my issue is an aberration as I couldn't find any talk in this regard. I'm asking here because I'm a little hesitant in sending it in to KAI, all other aspects of this knife are awesome. I don't have any of the other issues mentioned in other posts, detent, sharp edges etc... This knife is a definite keeper it's a large knife that handles smaller if that makes any sense. I love it, but blade centering is a pet peeve of mine and like I mentioned may get worse over time if the pivot needs to be tightened a smidge..
Anyone else have blade centering issues with the ZT0560?
I've had 3 560s in my possesion all 3 were solid, I sold one to fund a grail, traded the other one for a semi grail and bought the 3rd because i couldn't be without one. All 3 had different detents but all flipped easily . It's all about technique really, as far as blade centering goes, I haven't had any problems in that department but KIA will fix you right up i promise you.
Am I being to critical here, comment please...I can take it!
Other than that the knife is nearly perfect, fit and function and loving it......
It's off centered the right way. It favors the lock side and should move to the right with use. At least that is the direction all of my knives have moved to become out of center.
The lock bar always seems to push the blade out of center over time with use. This would be the perfect set up IMO.
Thanks 'presz' for your reply and info! I was just a little concerned as I'm usually able to fix off-center blades pretty easily, that wasn't the case here with my 0560. I just loosen up the scales/liners and flex the handle to reseat the blade centered, worked like a charm previously (learned that here on the forums).
Your comment on the blade migrating away from the lockbar eventually is invaluable to me, I appreciate it!
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