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Thread: Problems with centrifugal force?

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    I disagree, of the 3 of the millies I have owned- none were "easy" to flick out. Possibly the strongest detents out of all production knives I own.

    Quote Originally Posted by rycen View Post
    If your looking for someone to say it is okay you're not going to find that. The military has a strong detent but can also be flicked quite easily. Reading what you wrote in the Spyderco forums I'd say choosing to carry a military is risky in Canada.

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    my JYD II is actually fairly easy to centrifugal open out of virtue of its big well balanced blade and smooth action. I still carry it now and then , but I avoid carrying it were I might see or be stopped by cops. it really ought not to get me into trouble though, its not designed to be opened that way after all.

    when it comes down to it its really more dependent on the cop than the knife. if its an asshole cop having a bad day you can get in trouble for carrying a case slip-joint it seems, they'll fabricate a reason why you're up to "no good", maybe you won't get a criminal charge but they could still haul you in. good rule of thumb is just be polite and friendly with them, most of them are nice enough and won't give you too much of a hassle about it so long as you show them you are a decent responsible person.

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    Whoa - check this out, guys, pay careful attention!

    http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/highlig...05oncj360.html


    It was found to be "technically" a flick knife pursuant to the prohibited weapons regulations, but was not found to be a weapon in the first place... therefore the verdict? "Not guilty"!

    interesting stuff and potentially very helpful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosey View Post
    Whoa - check this out, guys, pay careful attention!

    http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/highlig...05oncj360.html


    It was found to be "technically" a flick knife pursuant to the prohibited weapons regulations, but was not found to be a weapon in the first place... therefore the verdict? "Not guilty"!

    interesting stuff and potentially very helpful!
    And such is a major difference between the US and Canada. In Canada, it is necessary to prove 'intent' to commit a crime or violation. Thank God for 'reasonable doubt'.




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    Someone I know was at a Tim Horton's and dropped her favorite balisong on the floor in front of a bunch of cops... didn't get off so easy... all depends.

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    Oh, did some more reading and found this out: the "weapon" definition is generally an automatic thing if you are in possession of a prohibited weapon, no matter your intent.

    However, it would seem if you do not know that your knife may be opened by centrifugal force, you lack the mens rea (intent) of the crime and should be found not guilty.

    Try searching CanLII, there's a wealth of information on there!

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    I'd say that if it comes to that, you've already got bigger problems. image is everything. look like a bum, probably trouble. mid-40s wearing a tie, no worries. At the end of the day its the judge's decision, but stack the cards in your favor to stay out of the court room.

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    double tap

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    Quote Originally Posted by forcedestrike View Post
    I disagree, of the 3 of the millies I have owned- none were "easy" to flick out. Possibly the strongest detents out of all production knives I own.
    Quote Originally Posted by rycen View Post
    If your looking for someone to say it is okay you're not going to find that. The military has a strong detent but can also be flicked quite easily. Reading what you wrote in the Spyderco forums I'd say choosing to carry a military is risky in Canada.

    I will stand by what I said having owned close to 30.

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