thanks for that one. e-bay price plus shipping (the latter is considerable for where i live) puts mine at 220.
Well if it gives you any hope I sold mine at $275 around a couple months ago. But that was only because I found a knife I needed to have and no one was biting at my first asking price so
I did a couple price drops to move it fast.
2 things to remember.
1. There are only 500 of these in circulation.
2. I believe Sal mentioned that there wont be another M4/G10/RIL knife because it just cost to much to produce. So no more.
So, therefore simple economics of supply and demand. There is a decrease in availability (quantity) on the open market, therefore the price will increase as the equilibrium shifts towards the left along the demand line.
I hate to sound like I am giving a lecture but I just hope to give some insight. The fact is the market states majority of people are willing to pay $370 for a limited run of knives give or take a few dollars. It has happened to many other models and companies.
I don’t need a lesson on how supply and demand works. I’m just saying I’m not willing to pay that kind of premium to a guy that paid $210 just so I can get it and make a user out of it. The knife just isn’t worth that much money. If it was sold at the $300+ price tag then the re-sale at that price would be understood. It’s a $200 knife. I’m not a collector. Some person buying one just to flip it and make money isn’t something I’ll allow myself to get involved in. This isn’t real-estate. I can afford to buy one at the $300+ price tag, I’m just not morally going to allow myself to purchase one under those circumstances. It would be a bad investment on my part. I don’t care how many were made. That’s just not my style. We’re not talking real commodities being traded on the open market. It’s a knife. I guarantee if you asked Sal what he thought about this he would say “No comment”.
I feel bad for starting this thread actually because no doubt some people will be bothered by my thoughts. I just didn’t realize this kind of thing was going on with these knives. I stopped collecting in 2007 and this wasn’t such a big thing at the time. I have spent high dollar amounts on custom and mid-tech knives so it’s not the price that I don’t like, it’s the morals of it. It’s not like the prices went up over the years due to popularity. It’s like this... Spyderco releases a knife you buy it then the run is over and you double your money. That is flat out greed and the people willing to pay the prices are more to blame as those charging them. They are driving the market and are the problem. As an enthusiast I can’t allow myself to be a part of that kind of nonsense. I’d rather not have the knife.
Last edited by USAFSP; 05-02-2012 at 04:10 AM.
the point is it'll be very hard to buy them at the cost you want. very often the original price becomes irrelevant after some time.
but you know, i agree in a way. i want people to buy knives, keep them and use them. too many knives sitting it out in a safe, and awaiting resale at a high price. it's not very healthy for a manufacturing industry. well, that drawback is somehow eased by the fact that people buy several units. but if we're talking about sprint runs, i suppose the collector bug is too strong to ignore.
the downside to collecting should also be obvious. most 10+ year old knives, while still serviceable, have been superceded technologically. any appreciation in value will be difficult.
Very true... I looked at it like this. My favourite steel in one of my favourite knife designs with a frame lock, which I also really like. I can really enjoy and get some solid use out of this knife. Then I saw what was going on. We’re not talking something like a Damascus Delica. The sprint runs are awesome and I like the idea of limited numbers or else there would just be too many versions of the same knife available. I get it... But price hiking on a knife designed for heavy use because a group of people deem it a collector’s piece? There are guys here that have posted that actually use theirs as intended. I bet those guys aren’t thinking about how much they are worth. The price is hiked by the collectors alone. I guarantee there is NO legitimate or formal list of worth, printed by a 3rd party stating they are actually worth these inflated prices. Not like rare coins, stamps, baseball cards and some other collectables. As a hobby, a few friends and I started playing the Magic card game like when we were younger, just for fun for card night instead of poker. There are cards that are worth a lot of money but there is a whole industry behind that which states the values. There are dealers charging those inflated costs and lists that show them as being legitimate prices... I heavily doubt you’ll find that with one of these knives and I’m willing to bet there are people that bought them that have no idea their knife became “worth” so much money. Of the 500 made I guarantee not all of them went to BF members and if one of those guys were to sell theirs, they would ask a reasonable price. I would wager fewer than 200 people bought one or two of these and thought to charge what they are charging. This isn’t proof of worth it’s highway robbery. Sorry but that’s just the truth.
I'm sure another reason the comment was made that it was a good deal, is because they have gone for close to $500 on Ebay if I'm not mistaken. So that price is actually at the lower end of what a NIB example can sell for. Doesn't mean you think it is a good deal, but if it is on the cheaper side then technically it is.
i wonder if sal will care to answer this: how likely will people see a military/paramilitary with a solid zdp 189 blade? with a metal that's already used in the main manufacturing stream, and considered top-quality, i don't think people will need to pay through the nose for it.
The Military is a Golden made model so the chances of seeing it with a Japanese steel is slim to none.
please don't kill the ideal straightaway. miracles do happen.
I wonder what percentage of this particular sprint run is still NIB two years later?
I bought one but as soon as I opened the box I remembered why I didn't own a Military and still don't. I think I sold mine for $275 about a month after I bought it.
Look on the bright side: at least you don't want an S90V Manix 2!
For those of you who weren't in the loop on this one, you'll be happy to know that the original purchasers of these amazing knives were on a waiting list for over a year before getting them And it was delayed, what, half a year??
It was worth it, though. Can't imagine a better knife. Period.
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