Will this get any traction in the MSM?

[quietmike]

News has just surfaced that Obama's literary agent, Acton & Dystel, in 1991 printed the following biography about Obama to promote his book which was to be called "Journeys in Black and White" but was renamed to "Dreams of my Father".



Obamabio.jpg


http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/5735...born-in-kenya/

While I think the birther issue will go nowhere, as Obama has spent countless millions keeping his and Michelle's records hidden, contrary to his promise to have a "transparent" administration, there are enough questions for a thorough investigation.

[Nordic Viking]

Wow, you've just singlehandedly destroyed his chances of re-election.

You'll also find that in Breitbart's autopsy report, he was poisoned with a rare poison only found in .... KENYA. Don't bother googling it because Obama hasn't already spend 3.6 billion to cover it up.

[quietmike]

Wow, you've just destroyed his chances of re-election.

Terrific, informative post.

[Nordic Viking]

Terrific, informative post.

Please don't regurgitate WorldNetDaily garbage over here. At least the idiots who read that stuff have to actively choose the visit the website.

[quietmike]

Please don't regurgitate WorldNetDaily garbage over here. At least the idiots who read that stuff have to actively choose the visit the website.

Sorry but Democratic Underground locked a thread about it.
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1014123315

And Huffpo isn't reporting on it yet (shocker)

BTW-You'll notice it isn't a WND link.

[Hog Feet]

Please don't regurgitate WorldNetDaily garbage over here. At least the idiots who read that stuff have to actively choose the visit the website.

Is it from WND? Why do you call the readers idiots? Do you have an opinion or evidence to contradict Obama's former publisher who described Obama as born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia?

[Codger_64]

Wow, you've just singlehandedly destroyed his chances of re-election.

You'll also find that in Breitbart's autopsy report, he was poisoned with a rare poison only found in .... KENYA. Don't bother googling it because Obama hasn't already spend 3.6 billion to cover it up.

Did you bother to read the discourse about the bio? The author outright states that the bio does not refute the Hawaii birth certificate. Rather that O'bama and his handlers redefine him as they wish. No surprise there at all.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...donesia-Hawaii

Before we go further into detail, Breitbart’s Senior Management wanted to let readers know that Andrew Breitbart and Breitbart News have never advocated any of the rumors surrounding Barack Obama’s location of birth, and they believe he was born in Hawaii. They do, however, say that they want to further research the president who appears to have a “carefully crafted persona he and his advisers had constructed for him.” They go on to say that the photographs are evidence, “not of the President’s foreign origin, but that Barack Obama’s public persona has perhaps been presented differently at different times.”

[Preacher Man]

Please don't regurgitate WorldNetDaily garbage over here. At least the idiots who read that stuff have to actively choose the visit the website.

Ad hominem attacks are not allowed. There is no need to insult those who read WorldNetDaily, nor to ignore the rest of the post. Please express your views without resorting to Ad Hominem attacks against conservatives. Are we to infer from your comment the only reliable news are those that reflect your political views? This thread and the link it refers to sheds light at a possible source to the "birther" phenomenon, and the only thing you can do is call conservative idiots?

[timcsaw]

News has just surfaced that Obama's literary agent, Acton & Dystel, in 1991 printed the following biography about Obama to promote his book which was to be called "Journeys in Black and White" but was renamed to "Dreams of my Father".

Obamabio.jpg

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/5735...born-in-kenya/

While I think the birther issue will go nowhere, as Obama has spent countless millions keeping his and Michelle's records hidden, contrary to his promise to have a "transparent" administration, there are enough questions for a thorough investigation.

Maybe Obama will get lucky and find out he, like Elizabeth Warren, is 1/64 Native American...

[Nordic Viking]

Did you bother to read the discourse about the bio? The author outright states that the bio does not refute the Hawaii birth certificate. Rather that O'bama and his handlers redefine him as they wish. No surprise there at all.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...donesia-Hawaii

No I did not bother reading the discourse about the bio, it was the original poster's job to provide enough information and present the facts. All he did was post a picture, send us on a reading assignment and insinuate that Obama is covering "up something big" hence the huge cost of the cover up.

[Nordic Viking]

Ad hominem attacks are not allowed. There is no need to insult those who read WorldNetDaily, nor to ignore the rest of the post. Please express your views without resorting to Ad Hominem attacks against conservatives. Are we to infer from your comment the only reliable news are those that reflect your political views? This thread and the link it refers to sheds light at a possible source to the "birther" phenomenon, and the only thing you can do is call conservative idiots?

As stated, I don't do reading assignments on conspiracy theory posts (which BTW was a link, a picture and a rant and definitely doesn't qualify against the prerequisites for starting a thread IMO). And I apologise for calling WND readers idiots, that opinion should have been kept to myself.

[Preacher Man]

News has just surfaced that Obama's literary agent, Acton & Dystel, in 1991 printed the following biography about Obama to promote his book which was to be called "Journeys in Black and White" but was renamed to "Dreams of my Father".



Obamabio.jpg


http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/5735...born-in-kenya/

While I think the birther issue will go nowhere, as Obama has spent countless millions keeping his and Michelle's records hidden, contrary to his promise to have a "transparent" administration, there are enough questions for a thorough investigation.

The article in the link is quite informative. I have always thought the birther phenomenon to be puzzling, and quite frankly, completely ideologically driven. This article shows my assessment of the birther debate to be at least partially wrong. It turns out there really are some non-partisan originated biographical notes out there that can lead individuals to assume incorrectly, I believe, that Barack Obama is not a US citizen by birth. This turns what I believed to be the result of partisan politics into a more understandable if still partially partisan-driven debate.

[Preacher Man]

As stated, I don't do reading assignments on conspiracy theory posts (which BTW was a link, a picture and a rant and definitely doesn't qualify the prerequisites for starting a thread IMO). And I apologise for calling WND readers idiots, that opinion should have been kept to myself.

It turns out you may benefit from the article, if just to get a feel for the kind of misunderstanding that may cause the birther debate. In research this is referred to as the priority of sources. Primary sources are reliable, secondary sources are acceptable, tertiary sources, like the bio notes mentioned in this article, must be verified every time. From your point of view, this article can be interpreted as giving ammunition to point at some of the sources behind the birther debate as tertiary sources that no one bothered to verify. Don't assume the content of an article based on who points you to it.

[Nordic Viking]

It turns out you may benefit from the article, if just to get a feel for the kind of misunderstanding that may cause the birther debate. In research this is referred to as the priority of sources. Primary sources are reliable, secondary sources are acceptable, tertiary sources, like the bio notes mentioned in this article, must be verified every time. From your point of view, this article can be interpreted as giving ammunition to point at some of the sources behind the birther debate as tertiary sources that no one bothered to verify. Don't assume the content of an article based on who points you to it.

There are people (unsuccessfully) working 24/7 to try and prove that Obama was not born in the US. He has released both versions of his birth certificate for review and passed scrutiny (except for the conspiracy theorists). This falls into the same category as the faked moon landings / Bush blew up the Twin Towers etc.

[BlackKnight86]

It turns out you may benefit from the article, if just to get a feel for the kind of misunderstanding that may cause the birther debate. In research this is referred to as the priority of sources. Primary sources are reliable, secondary sources are acceptable, tertiary sources, like the bio notes mentioned in this article, must be verified every time. From your point of view, this article can be interpreted as giving ammunition to point at some of the sources behind the birther debate as tertiary sources that no one bothered to verify. Don't assume the content of an article based on who points you to it.

More importantly, this situation illustrates why the birther story, the dog-eating story, and the girlfriend amalgam are relevant. It has nothing to do with the stories' material elements. It's a matter of the horrendous job that the media did in vetting Lord Obama the First.

Regarding the birther issue, consider the scrutiny of John McCain back in 2008 about his birth in the Panama Canal Zone. Especially given the rampant hypocrisy of the media when it comes to examination of Democrats vs Republicans, it is no surprise that they would squawk so loudly about "the birthers" being "unreasonable". But it's revelations like this one that may not prove anything; but they certainly give reasonable cause to wonder about what else may not have been uncovered; and they definitely paint the media and the left in a bad light for their outrageous inconsistent behavior.

There are people (unsuccessfully) working 24/7 to try and prove that Obama was not born in the US. He has released both versions of his birth certificate for review and passed scrutiny (except for the conspiracy theorists). This falls into the same category as the faked moon landings / Bush blew up the Twin Towers etc.

Exaggerate much? Documents mean nothing; the ease at which they can be faked and manufactured is laughable. As to his "passing scrutiny", that is exactly what we are talking about....scrutiny that is full of holes is not real scrutiny at all. You need some work on your analogies.

Whether he is native born or not is not what is relevant here....what is relevant is that he is not the transparent "beacon of light" that he was made up to be. If that's what Americans want for their President, then they get what they get. But don't try to pretend that he is stain-free.

[jdm61]

People are still talking about how the birth certificate is a modern "copy" and as such suspect. Some have said that the original may show that he was born in Hawaii but lists his religion as "Muslim" which might have been a possibility in 1961. Who knows? Who cares?

[eyeeatingfish]

While I think the birther issue will go nowhere, as Obama has spent countless millions keeping his and Michelle's records hidden, contrary to his promise to have a "transparent" administration, there are enough questions for a thorough investigation.

Keeping them secret? A copy of his HAwaii birth certificate was released.

And who the heck cares where Michelle was born? Can you not be a US president if your wife wasn't American?

[eyeeatingfish]

People are still talking about how the birth certificate is a modern "copy" and as such suspect. Some have said that the original may show that he was born in Hawaii but lists his religion as "Muslim" which might have been a possibility in 1961. Who knows? Who cares?

They never release the originals as I understand, they only release certified copies.

And since Obama clearly does not get to dictate what is on his birth certificate it would be of no consequence whether his mother put Muslim or Christian, or satanist on it.

[powernoodle]

Those who vote for Obama already know he is a devout racist, as evinced by his decades-long ties to "Reverend" Wright, and appointment to the high court of a woman who said that her race and gender make her a better judge than than her white, male counterparts. So the racism that is inherent in Obama's writings won't dissuade Obama voters. They already know what he is and will vote for him anyway. Or perhaps because of it.

[quietmike]

Keeping them secret? A copy of his HAwaii birth certificate was released.

And who the heck cares where Michelle was born? Can you not be a US president if your wife wasn't American?

Just a few mysteries of the "transparent administration".

1)the original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.
2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham)
3) Obama’s baptism records
4) Obama’s adoption records
5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s repatriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia
6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records
7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii)
8) Punahou School financial aid or school records
9) Occidental College financial aid records (These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occidental records have been released.)
10) Columbia College records
11) Columbia senior thesis
12) Harvard Law School records
13) Obama’s law client list
14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator
15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association
16) Obama’s medical records
17) Obama’s passport records

How does a man, who in his own biography admitted he was in a drug induced haze his last 2 years in high school and skipped school a lot and had little money and never worked a day in his life end up in Harvard Law School?

How does an unknown senator of Illinois, who never accomplished anything of merit, write a bestselling autobiography?