Zimmerman needs to be charged with manslaughter

[greater]

In my opinion Zimmerman followed (stalked) an unarmed man who was doing nothing, accosted him, started a fight, and ended it with with his gun.

He should be jailed for manslaughter to send a message to any wanabe rogue cop vigilates out there that they will be held accountable for their actions.

Zimmerman was doing somthing he was not supposed to do and someone died as a direct result. In the end it boils down to Trevon wound up killed for no other reason than he looked supicious in Zimmerman's mind.


Zimmerman walked into the situation as an armed aggressor (stalker) and had every reason to know someone could get hurt or killed before hand.

I am angry that Zimmerman would even bring up the Florida stand your ground law which happens to a very good law except in this case it is much more likely that Trevon was the one standing his ground against a stalker closing in on him and he paid with his life for fighting back against this stalking aggressor.

Zimmerman's stalking, intimidation, and shooting of an unarmed Trevon has nothing to do with Florida's stand your ground law and the fact that he tried to invoke it is offensive to anyone with common sense.


It is people like Zimmerman who give a bad image to neighborhood watch groups and others working hard to make their community a safe place to live. People see this on the news and people get the impression that members of watch groups are murdering vigilante creeps.

[Danbo]

And, you know this, how?

[timcsaw]

In my opinion Zimmerman followed (stalked) an unarmed man who was doing nothing, accosted him, started a fight, and ended it with with his gun.

He should be jailed for manslaughter to send a message to any wanabe rouge cop vigilates out there that they will be held accountable for their actions.

Zimmerman was doing somthing he was not supposed to do and someone died as a direct result. In the end it boils down to Trevon wound up killed for no other reason than he looked supicious in Zimmerman's mind.


Zimmerman walked into the situation as an armed aggressor (stalker) and had every reason to know someone could get hurt or killed before hand.

I am angry that Zimmerman would even bring up the Florida stand your ground law which happens to a very good law except in this case it is much more likely that Trevon was the one standing his ground against a stalker closing in on him and he paid with his life for fighting back against this stalking aggressor.

Zimmerman's stalking, intimidation, and shooting of an unarmed Trevon has nothing to do with Florida's stand your ground law and the fact that he tried to invoke it is offensive to anyone with common sense.


It is people like Zimmerman who give a bad immage to neighborhood watch groups and others working hard to make their community a safe place to live. People see this on the news and people get the impression that members of watch groups are all creeps.

Yours is one position, but not the only position. You might want to read the other thread discussion here to consider the other position.

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Just common sense Danbo common sense.

[timcsaw]

Common sense isn't so common. The man is innocent until proved guilty.

[Irminsul]

You do not prosecute someone to "send a message". That is the beginning of totalitarian policies intruding into the judicial system. You do it or don't do it based strictly on the evidence. Sending a message already led to a wrongful prosecution for second degree murder in this case, imo. The evidence released thus far does not support the current indictment. Whether it will support a reduced charge of manslaughter or not, is yet to be seen as the case progresses.

[greater]

Irminsul I did not mean it in that context what I simply meant was that the law should be applied.

The law is meant to send a message to would be criminals that they will be punished and the risk is not worth the price. That is how order is maintained in a society. I would definately feel more safe if every rogue vigilante out there would not stalk and shoot me for looking suspicious as a result.

[litetube]

Zimmerman was found guilty by the disgusting media salivating over the thought of a potential nationwide race riot instigated by them. The story sat for 2 weeks until they needed something new for ratings. And they still keep running that photo of Trevon when he was 12 . why do you suppose they do that and why do you suppose they keep calling Zimmerman a "White Hispanic"? what is that exactly? And why was the media caught altering the tapes of the 911 calls?

This whole thing is a perversion and will do nothing but continue to divide poeple in this country over something that has nothing to do with what happened

None of us was there and more evidence is coming out all the time. I heard yesterday drugs were found in Martin? Unfortunately if he is not found guilty there will be rioting and innocent poeple are gonna be hurt or killed over this. How can they not find Zimmerman guilty knowing what will happen if they dont? even the jurors will need protection and will be attacked. This wont be justice it is a mockery of the justice system

[powernoodle]

I would like to know the facts before I draw a conclusion.

[timcsaw]

Irminsul I did not mean it in that context what I simply meant was that the law should be applied.

The law is meant to send a message to would be criminals that they will be punished and the risk is not worth the price. That is how order is maintained in a society. I would definately feel more safe if every rouge vigilante out there would not stalk and shoot me for looking suspicious as a result.

If by "stalk" you mean "followed", it isn't against the law to follow someone. If by "stalk" you mean the illegal crime where one person obsessively, repeatedly harasses another, GZ's actions don't meet that definition.

[timcsaw]

I would like to know the facts before I draw a conclusion.

Quoted for it's wisdom.

[BlackKnight86]

And, you know this, how?

He doesn't.


Oh, and Greater? It's ROGUE, not rouge. Rouge is a cosmetic.

[greater]

Litetube be that as it may


I certainly would not want to become the dead victim in an obvious manslaughter case such as this one because my attacker suspects me of smoking pot. Whether he was right or wrong doesn't matter. I don't think I would derserve to be shot dead after being stalked, accosted, and bullied while comming back from the store.

[timcsaw]

I don't think I would derserve to be shot dead after being stalked, accosted, and bullied while comming back from the store.

If you really want to beef up the rhetoric, and provide an even greater level of over-board emotionalism, add torchered and raped and set on fire to the list like this;

'I don't think I would derserve to be shot dead after being stalked, accosted, torchered, raped, set on fire and bullied while comming back from the store.'

If we're going to make stuff up, let's go BIG!

[shawnpatterson]

I think our personal baggage, of course, inevitably sways our opinion of this case. For me, I found it very suspicous that no charges were filed until the media put so much pressure on the police they had to whore their honor out to shut'em up.

[TEFL0N_D0N_81]

Facts:

1) Zimmerman followed Treyvon.
2) Zimmerman shot Treyvon.
3) FL's Stand Your Ground law can protect Zimmerman if he asserts the "I thought I was going to die" stance.
4) FL's Stand Your Ground law can protect Treyvon Martin if he asserts the ... oh wait...

[Esav Benyamin]

We have already gone through this. You are adding nothing to the discussion but your personal emotional reaction. Trayvon Martin case, unarmed teen shot by neighborhood watchman
I am closing this thread.