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    Omfg do want!!!!!!!!

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    This is great!!! Can't wait ... oh boy!!!

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    Newb question. I'm not familiar with S110V. How does it compare to the original Elmax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokerblue View Post
    Newb question. I'm not familiar with S110V. How does it compare to the original Elmax?
    Not as tough, but it's all about edge retention, think above and beyond S90V or M390

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    Mark me down for one!

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    Looks like ill be selling my Tilt to fund this

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ChevyScott View Post
    Looks like ill be selling my Tilt to fund this
    Blasphemy!

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    Wow, that sucker may bump my ZT0300 for EDC.
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    Excuse my ignorance, but what are the benefits to having a composite blade? Why not make the whole blade out of S110V?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calypso699 View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but what are the benefits to having a composite blade? Why not make the whole blade out of S110V?
    1- it's cheaper than a full S110v blank(I believe)

    2 - it's way cooler this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calypso699 View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but what are the benefits to having a composite blade? Why not make the whole blade out of S110V?

    Aside from beauty, the blade composition increase toughness to the whole blade.

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    Last edited by shqxk; 05-31-2012 at 12:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shqxk View Post
    Aside from beauty, the blade composition increase toughness to the whole blade.

    http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kersh...ives-s/206.htm
    Yeah no.

    Its a gimmick. A feature to set apart the brand. Supposedly keeps cost down as opposed to making the whole blade from the higher end steel, but I cant imagine its more cost effective to attach a cheap steel to an expensive steel rather than just making the whole blade from the expensive steel.
    It does look cool, dont try to make it out to be more than it is though.

    That said, I must have this 0560. An amazing looking knife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKBM45 View Post
    Yeah no.

    Its a gimmick. A feature to set apart the brand. Supposedly keeps cost down as opposed to making the whole blade from the higher end steel, but I cant imagine its more cost effective to attach a cheap steel to an expensive steel rather than just making the whole blade from the expensive steel.
    It does look cool, dont try to make it out to be more than it is though.

    That said, I must have this 0560. An amazing looking knife.
    Probably what you said, but IMO it make sense to composite harder/fragile blade to the softer/tougher spine in order to increase impact resistance to the blade. Just like the Japanese katana making process.

    And i don't think the composition of 2 steel will really reduce the cost. The real expensive procedure should be the manufacturing not materials.
    Last edited by shqxk; 05-31-2012 at 01:57 AM.

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    Wow! I gotta have one of these. I love the 0560 and this looks even better.

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    Right now the Composite blade process makes sense in that some steel types are in short supply (like, Vanax 75 and CPM S110V), just by using the composite blade you can probably get twice as many knives out of the same amount of steel.
    When using stuff like CPM D-2 it makes a lot of sense, since you get to make the spine and pivot stainless, but have a tool steel edge (or you could go the other way around just for aesthetic reasons).

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelm466 View Post
    Not as tough, but it's all about edge retention, think above and beyond S90V or M390
    Why would ELMAX be tougher than S110V?
    S110V has a bit of tungsten and 3% niobium, both of which increase toughness, Elmax has none. You are correct S110V is extremely wear resistant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua J. View Post
    Right now the Composite blade process makes sense in that some steel types are in short supply (like, Vanax 75 and CPM S110V), just by using the composite blade you can probably get twice as many knives out of the same amount of steel.
    When using stuff like CPM D-2 it makes a lot of sense, since you get to make the spine and pivot stainless, but have a tool steel edge (or you could go the other way around just for aesthetic reasons).
    Being able to make more knives is the most important part to me. It's basically the same end result as a San Mai samurai sword construction. A hard wear resistant edge and a softer ductile spine. With the benefit of creating a cool shaped imatation hamon line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacdriver22mk2 View Post
    the only thing i can think of to out do this is to krein it oops i mean krein it... but then the composite ooohhh so many thoughts darn you thomas i wont be able to sleep untill well after i own one ... ok two ... well four ... but then seven is my lucky number ... but my little league number was eleven soo ...
    This. Imo, ffg grind on that knife with that steel would be fantabulous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejayburly View Post
    Why would ELMAX be tougher than S110V?
    S110V has a bit of tungsten and 3% niobium, both of which increase toughness, Elmax has none. You are correct S110V is extremely wear resistant.
    S110V has no tungsten in it, FYI.

    S110V should be tougher than S90V due to colbalt and niobium, but it would not any tougher than Elmax, the more alloy content never mean to be tougher, as you can see, carbon steel are tougher than any stainless avialable.


    Really wanna know when this grail gonna put on the market, 2013 may be?
    Last edited by shqxk; 05-31-2012 at 06:16 AM.

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