If I recall correctly...I believe in the Lewis and Clark Expedition diaries, there is a story of one of the members (sorry read a loooong time ago and don't remember who) fending off a grizzly attack with what I believe was a pike or polearm. (Either way close enough to a spear). Again if I am remembering it correctly, the person in question retreated into a lake or river and braced the weapon so that the grizzly could not get at him. Either way +1 for spear(ish) item. If we are stuck on handheld weapons and excluding bearspray, I want something that will keep the bear as far from me as possible.
As for not wanting to kill something to save your life... my thought is that if something is trying to kill me, all bets are off and I'm going to take away that thing's ability to threaten/kill me as quickly and efficiently as I'm able.
1) I did not mean to fire into the air as a means to scare off the bear. Just as an experiment to see if it works, and if so, to make something that has the same effect but not the lethality.
2) I don't like to see bears killed, and it is particularly ironic if it is done by people who appreciate the wild, nature. But you have no argument with me over priority. I hope to take my family on a trek through wild country some day, and I hope I never have to kill to protect me and mine. But I would not hesitate, and I am quite proficient with guns.
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I agree with you guys, a spear would be better than anything. I think if you asked our cavemen ancestors what weapon they would choose to stand off a bear, they would say:
2) Bow and Arrows
6) Bear Hands (Get it??)
In some ways the spear would be better than a bow. I might even give it a nod.
I love the fireworks and air horn suggestions. Nobody said sling-shot (someone said sling). The sling -shot is a favorite toy of mine. I like the kind without an arm rest. I always use marbles and I'm pretty good. I think everyone is right, you just have to try and bluff, that really is what's gonna do you the most good.
Like I said; mountain lions scare me more than bears. In a weird way, you might be able to COMMUNICATE with a bear. Just like with a dog, "I don't want to, but if you come closer, I'm gonna stave your head in." A dog would understand that message, so might a bear, a mountain lion on the other hand....
I don't think they're stupid. Not at all. I just think their brains aren't put together that way. It's hard to imagine them feeling FEAR. That is a scary animal. Like I said, I walked up on one years ago. I had a .38 snub and I know how to use it but.... I'm not stupid either, just let Mr. Cat walk on and don't even CONSIDER the idea of facing it off.
Moose are BAD news also. I've heard horrrible stories of those babies. The females are the ones. You have NO idea how big they are until you see one up close. THey can kick you to death in a half second.
Claymore mines would work much better than any of those. I'm sure if our ancestors had the choice, they would use them
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Easy distinction: Using a weapon and your wits to bag game in the cleanest and humainest way possible and then respecting the animal enough to honor its life and use it to sustain your family is hunting. Using an automatic weapon, AR, treestands, or high powered rifles that kill an animal from hundreds of yards is killing. Hunting shouldn't be target practice with dead animals at the end...
These of course are my opinions and in no way do you have to agree with them or even like them. I know I kinda got off track here but I have ADHD so...ohh pretty butterfly!
I think a stout sharp spear is your best non-chemical/non-firearm option...preferably with someone else holding it while I'm at home safe in bed.
It seems I might be the only one following the rules of the thread. The op wanted to know which weapon you would choose that can be CONCEALED and isn't a firearm.Spears are a no go.
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They already have a pyrotechnic device .It's called a "bear banger". They are usually fired out of a pen like flare launcher or 12 gauge shotguns. They roughly have a range of about 150 to 200 feet. The noise output is similar to an M-80. They usually contain about 2 grams of flashpowder. 70/30 ratio of potassium perchlorate and 400 mesh dark aluminum powder. Bear banger are very easy to obtain in Canada. In the U.S.. If you buy them you usually have to sign an "end use" statement. The ATF takes a very dim view of people using them for recreational fireworks use instead of their intended purpose. Which is to hopefully frighten bears away from you. You should detonate the device to the side of the bear away from you. If you fire it over their head. The bear would most likely come racing towards you. Not good.
As of Monday, guns will be allowed in all but about 20 of the park service’s 392 locations, including some of its most iconic parks: Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon, Great Smoky Mountains, Yosemite and Rocky Mountain National Park.
Guns will not be allowed in visitor centers or rangers’ offices, because firearms are banned in federal buildings, but they could be carried into private lodges or concession stands, depending on state laws.
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