Can someone reccomend a concealed carry revolver?

[Bo T]

You mean to tell me people don't get ambushed while they're in their cars? I assume you know about Murphy's Law. Let's face it; **** happens, often at the least convenient time and VERY often the Fates, Murphy, God, whoever you believe runs the universe will throw you a curveball out of no-f***ing-where. Carrying a weapon which by your own admission has a very narrow and limited niche role is more liablity than help.

And to answer your question of "who would use a .22 mag to shoot through a car door or windshield": the person who is carrying a .22 mag mini revolver who just got screwed over because the universe didn't want to follow their version of reality. Unless, of course, you can convince an attacker to move to a position where you can easily shoot him and not worry about it. This smacks too much of the "it'll never happen to me" attitude.

Isn't it up to the individual to decide what level of insurance to carry? As long as that individual is aware of the pros and cons of their decision? I personally think that over penetration can be a liability, especially for a private citizen. LE is protected from civil suits and criminal suits to a much greater extent than private citizens. Having a round go through a 6" sill plate, a couple of doors and into a neighbor will cost you. So for specific scenerios your position creates an advantage, for other scenerios a liability.

More in line with the OPs question, the 32 H&R Mag will give lower level 38 special performance out of revolvers chambered for it. If you find a little DA chambered for the round I think it deserves consideration.

[Spongebobby]

Keep in mind i never said i didn't like the .38 j frames. I do like them and i am looking at them, i just want to further explore all other options.

[Bo T]

Years ago I had a M36 "Chiefs Special". It was a nice little pistol. I don't think you would go wrong with any of the Smith's.

[will_1400]

Isn't it up to the individual to decide what level of insurance to carry? As long as that individual is aware of the pros and cons of their decision? I personally think that over penetration can be a liability, especially for a private citizen. LE is protected from civil suits and criminal suits to a much greater extent than private citizens. Having a round go through a 6" sill plate, a couple of doors and into a neighbor will cost you. So for specific scenerios your position creates an advantage, for other scenerios a liability.

More in line with the OPs question, the 32 H&R Mag will give lower level 38 special performance out of revolvers chambered for it. If you find a little DA chambered for the round I think it deserves consideration.

So we should all carry mouseguns because of civil liablity? I do agree that civil suits are a consideration one has to make. It's one of the reasons why I harp on training: if you've spent time and money to train with those who know what they're doing and talking about (Vickers, Hackathorn, and their peers, for example), then you have more ammo (pardon the pun) for dealing with legal action. "Councillor, based upon the training that I have recieved from accredited individuals and organizations, I precieved a threat and responded with the force my training told me was appropriate." Ditto weapon and ammo selection. "Councillor, the pistol I was carrying and used at the time of the incident is a common weapon in the hands of police and the ammuniton in said pistol is issued by multiple police departments across the country."

You're right that it is the individual's choice in the end, but that won't stop me from making a strong recommendation for the weapon that has been THE back up weapon of choice of police for decades and a round that was THE police round for nearly a century. Also, NAA minis are nearly the same price as a .38 J-frame (about 100-150 bucks difference, not that much as far as guns go) so why NOT go with the gun that's easier to fight with?

[Spongebobby]

Okay, your both right, the NAA mini is much easier to carry and the j frame in 38+p is a more effective fighting pistol. And a j frame is probably what im gonna go with, that or a charter in .44 special when they come out with the classic model. I would get one of the mini's but i already have one. Enough with the pissing contest, you both know alot you just have different opinions. Doesn't mean any ones wronger than any one else. Thank you both for your time and advice, it was very helpful, and thanks to everyone else to.

[Bo T]

So we should all carry mouseguns because of civil liablity? I do agree that civil suits are a consideration one has to make. It's one of the reasons why I harp on training: if you've spent time and money to train with those who know what they're doing and talking about (Vickers, Hackathorn, and their peers, for example), then you have more ammo (pardon the pun) for dealing with legal action. "Councillor, based upon the training that I have recieved from accredited individuals and organizations, I precieved a threat and responded with the force my training told me was appropriate." Ditto weapon and ammo selection. "Councillor, the pistol I was carrying and used at the time of the incident is a common weapon in the hands of police and the ammuniton in said pistol is issued by multiple police departments across the country."

You're right that it is the individual's choice in the end, but that won't stop me from making a strong recommendation for the weapon that has been THE back up weapon of choice of police for decades and a round that was THE police round for nearly a century. Also, NAA minis are nearly the same price as a .38 J-frame (about 100-150 bucks difference, not that much as far as guns go) so why NOT go with the gun that's easier to fight with?

I feel as if we are hijacking the OPs thread, but believe the issue is important. If you would like to start a new thread on the subject I'll do my best to chip in.

Sorry spongebobby, I was typing my post while you were posting yours.

[tyr_shadowblade]

NAA minis are nearly the same price as a .38 J-frame

Actually, a used mini goes for about 150 and a used S&W Airweight goes for about 400.

[tyr_shadowblade]

I have an NAA mini, i enjoy it's smallness, but even the .22 long rifle tend to flip up in my hand about 50% of the time, maybe im doing something wrong but i dont want that happening in a bad situation.

The NAA standard minis come with smooth rosewood grips. These can be replaced with checkered walnut, textured rubber, or stag. Rubber birdshead or slip-on grips are available for about $15 from NAA or on eBay and are a good investment. You will not experience flip with those. Be sure to get the right size, as the short, LR, and magnum all have different sized frames. The PUG, Black Widow, and Mini Master can all accept standard magnum frame grips.

I have a pair of Black Widows, one with stag and one with compact rubber birdshead grips. The heavier frame and unfluted cylinder reduce felt recoil considerable compared to a standard mini with 1 1/8" barrel.

[will_1400]

I feel as if we are hijacking the OPs thread, but believe the issue is important. If you would like to start a new thread on the subject I'll do my best to chip in.

Sorry spongebobby, I was typing my post while you were posting yours.

Yeah. I'm not trying to turn this into a "bigger wang" contest. Sorry about the hijack, spongebobby. I'll probably start a thread about my thoughts on SD. Just as soon as I take the time to write them down in a coherent format.

[stabman]

You mean to tell me people don't get ambushed while they're in their cars?

In those instances, one should use the "press firmly on the gas pedal and leave" technique.

[will_1400]

In those instances, one should use the "press firmly on the gas pedal and leave" technique.

Some places I've seen those kinds of attacks happen, driving off isn't an option (heavy traffic, for example). I agree that escape is the best way to go, but sometime it's not possible.

[jmpainter]

Would be my first choice.
We just had one of these in my hood....
They opened fire on the guy as he tried to drive off and he drove into a house.
Attackers ran away

In those instances, one should use the "press firmly on the gas pedal and leave" technique.