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    Small fixed blades?

    I like the looks of some of the smaller affordable neck knives out there, but a fixed blade in a Kydex sheath seems a lot more "weapon-like" than a folder. Most cops know folders are generally permitted, but is the same true for fixed blade EDCs?

    Do any of you guys carry fixed blades? I wouldn't get one if it is technically perfectly legal but will still cause trouble or be confiscated or worse, etc.

    Edit: I think I should also clarify what knives I have been looking at

    The Izula and Izula 2, maaaybe the ESEE 3
    As well as the Boker Pocket Bowie and the Eskabar

    I know it's not illegal, since they're tools and designed as such, but I figure police may not know that
    I'm also in an urban setting and am younger than some here (20) which plays a role in police perception...
    Last edited by Goosey; 07-07-2012 at 02:17 AM.

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    I carry a small FB in a pocket sheath every day. (Mostly the smaller Bark River knives) Never had any problem, but I don't have much interaction with police normally.

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    I have carried my Cold steel pendleton light hunter, Condor Bushlore and BK2 on my belt in downtown Toronto at night, usually not at the same time. I am a garbage man and in uniform, I dont carry for protection, just showing them off to my buddies. The legality is the same for fixed or folders, it comes down to intent. If I feel like it going to be an issue they go in my work bag. If you are rolling around in a lowered civic or a H2 with 20s, wearing gold chain around your neck and your hat on sideways, leave all the knives at home. If you want to wear a neck knife, put it under your shirt.

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    I routinely wear a CRKT Folts Minimalist Bowie in neck knife mode. I work as a security consultant and dog handler, and mount my ID on the plastic sheath. The knife is visible, but attracts no attention unless I draw it to do some cutting chore. Living in rural Nova Scotia, things like that attract little by way of negative attention, but I am always aware that the rare negative reaction comes more from the perception of an unorthodox (read that THREATENING) carry method than to the presence of a small knife. So, it's good advice to tuck it inside when getting close to members of the Great Unwashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whynacht View Post
    I routinely wear a CRKT Folts Minimalist Bowie in neck knife mode.
    I forgot to mention the Minimalist, I like the Bowie and the Wharncliffe.



    I live in an urban area, but the idea of a small fixed blade holds great appeal. No locks folding on fingers, no need to open, etc. I myself have never seen another person just out and about with a neck knife, though.

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    I don't carry one, but own a couple of Ka-Bar 2751 models which are double edged and small.

    6.5" end to end.

    Depending on overall condition and handle material (ivory micarta or pearl). Can pick them up from about $40 - $100



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    I'd stay away from the stuff that looks "shanky" if that makes sense. the izula looks like a useful knife, do a bright cord wrap, and it looks pretty harmless. In fact you can make an argument that fixed blades are more legal, as there is none of that pesky "flick" rule crap. I think it all comes down to how things look. I carried all kinds of hardware at the age of 20 around calgary, (some probable less of a good idea than others) but I also avoided clubs, trouble parts of town, that sort of thing. If you dress like a goon, you'll get tagged for everything they can put on you. Looking "decent" will get you a lot of grace. if you are really worried, go for one of the small fixed blades from one of the makers here, with wood and leather, then have a story about how you got it from your grand-dad, you'll probably get in more grace than if your knife says "super-shiv" and looks like something you were trying to conceal.
    Check your local laws, that will be the big factor in it all (some citys have banned fixed blades so the cops can take kitchen knives off drunk homeless guys)

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    I like a fallkniven WM1. If anybody asks the WM stands for Women's Model. tell them it is an EDC paring knife

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginzu View Post
    I don't carry one, but own a couple of Ka-Bar 2751 models which are double edged and small.

    6.5" end to end.

    Depending on overall condition and handle material (ivory micarta or pearl). Can pick them up from about $40 - $100



    DON
    Know where to get one? Thanks!!

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    I thought in Canada double edged knives are considered daggers and thus illegal for carry?

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    Have Willie Nease make you one!
    He's up der!

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    The Izula's a great little knife, for me the size is just right. I also have a Becker Necker which i find to be too large and a Bark River Micro Canadian which is way too small.

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    I have been carrying theCRKT rsk mk5 and honestly nobody has given me any trouble at all. It seems that if you act like it's totally normal then people seen think nothing of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlomein View Post
    I thought in Canada double edged knives are considered daggers and thus illegal for carry?
    Nope .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford View Post
    Nope .
    Not technically, but good luck telling a policeman it's not a weapon (either concealed or for a "purpose dangerous")

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    Theres only one way for a cop to believe that your knife is not a weapon and that is to use it. If you are always carrying a pristine blade than you may have to be quick with an explanation but if your knife is marked up and has sharpening scars than its clearly a tool or you are a serial killer. I would love to know of one instance in this country where a person was tried and convicted for carrying a knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinawalli View Post
    Know where to get one? Thanks!!
    I found mine on Ebay. One in image was $38 as scale other side slightly bluish and my second had a cracked scale, but same price so have to redo the scales on it.

    DON

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosey View Post
    Not technically, but good luck telling a policeman it's not a weapon (either concealed or for a "purpose dangerous")
    Just looked up the law again, Rusty's answer is technically correct (but like you mention, a peace officer can interpret anything they want).

    The Canadian law states that push daggers are illegal, being knives that have a handle to be used perpendicular to the blade. There is no law against double edged blades.

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    I have been carrying a fixed blade for some time now . I carry either my Izula which has the micarta handles on it or my Busse Magnum Bear Cub . I carry them both the same way . In their sheath shanding sheath down in my front jean pocket with a lanyard on them that hangs out of my pocket and keeps the knife standing straight in my pocket . It also makes the end of the knife as well as the lanyard visable so it's NOT concealed . But it doesn't look military or scare the general public . I live in the coutry , but have carried that way in Ottawa , Montreal and Toronto with no problems .
    I Am older (early 50's) but I'm also a Harley rider and often have a Harley or biker type T-shirt on .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Call_to_Arms View Post
    I have carried my Cold steel pendleton light hunter, Condor Bushlore and BK2 on my belt in downtown Toronto at night, usually not at the same time. I am a garbage man and in uniform, I dont carry for protection, just showing them off to my buddies. The legality is the same for fixed or folders, it comes down to intent. If I feel like it going to be an issue they go in my work bag. If you are rolling around in a lowered civic or a H2 with 20s, wearing gold chain around your neck and your hat on sideways, leave all the knives at home. If you want to wear a neck knife, put it under your shirt.
    That's pretty much were I stand also. Look, act, dress like an average responsible person. Keep your nose clean and stay away from bad people and places. Odds are now that you will be hit by lightning before being checked for a knife. I have a Firesteel on my keychain and feel that I can justify carrying a reasonable folder or necker to an officer, or in court. I refuse to have an isolated vehicle break down or get turned around in the bush without a cutting tool. The plastic thumb holder on one of my Firesteels let go and the rod came out. So I zip tied it to my Eskabar sheath. This makes sense in the outdoors or in town if need be explaining it to an officer. To each their own, just use some uncommon sense and you will be fine.

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