I thought this was illegal here?

[roughneckrob]

Hey guys I just found this Canadian site and I ordered a Benchmade training bali from them but as I looked around a little more I found this

I though knives with the trench guard were illegal here in Canada? Is this a legit online store or can I expect to get screwed on my training bali?

Sh*t, I think I just ordered a fake Benchmade. I really need to stop jumping on things before I look.

[aznpos531]

I've seen balisong trainers for sale in brick and mortar stores before. I just assumed that trainers are exempt but I'm not actually sure if they're legal.

[rycen]

You need to remove the link to a non paying dealer.

[ThirdTooth]

I honestly don't know about the legalities regarding trench guards, I feel like I have seen bayonets and collectors pieces with them before however. also, the knife in this link looks to be of a gravity opening nature, so I'm skeptical overall.

I don't see why trainers wouldn't be legal, but you never know. if you want the joy of flipping around a bali I would just buy one of the novelty butterfly bottle openers from blade HQ, at least those still have some legit utility to them and I think they are only $10 or something.

OR if you are a more unscrupulous individual you could take the springs out of a cold steel paradox. even knowing I wouldn't get caught I follow the law almost to a fault so while I wouldn't do it myself, I can tell that If you took the spring bars and ground them down some you could make it into an actual bali pretty easily. hypothetically speaking of course.

[Rusty Shackleford]

After a quick google, I think I found the store in question. To answer your question, D guard knives are legal, knives with Brass Knuckles are illegal. At least as far as the CBSA is concerned.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...9-13-2-eng.pdf

47. Brass knuckles can be combined with other weapons
such as knives. These ‘brass knuckles knives’ consist of two
parts: a knife blade, and brass knuckles integrated into the
handle. The blade part does not generally possess
characteristics that would make it fall under the definition of
prohibited weapon. Rather, it is the brass knuckles handle that
will usually determine the knife’s classification as a prohibited
weapon. In order for the knife to be prohibited, the brass
knuckles part of the knife must meet the definition of “brass
knuckles” in the regulations. Therefore, to classify a ‘brass
knuckles knife’ as prohibited:

(a) the handle must be a weapon; and
(b) that weapon must meet the definition of brass
knuckles. It is not sufficient for the blade portion of the
knife to be designed as a weapon.

Exception: The following goods generally do not meet the
definition of prohibited weapon, and thus do not fall under
tariff item 9898.00.00. Their misuse may nonetheless be
punishable under other laws:

(a) plastic knuckles do not fall within the definition of
“brass knuckle”;
(b) D-guard knives (knives with a hand-guard in the
form of a “D”).

[Goosey]

I'm almost certain it depends on the type of D-guard. Spiked or bumpy D-guards are illegal. Good old harmless Plain Jane D-guards are legal...

[stabman]

I'm almost certain it depends on the type of D-guard. Spiked or bumpy D-guards are illegal. Good old harmless Plain Jane D-guards are legal...

I think bumpy is okay as long as there's no finger holes.
Spiked is naughty, as you say.

[jc0228]

There's a store near me where you can actually buy balisongs, not trainers. I live in Canada as well. Actually, my cousin who is a mounty bought one from the store

[stabman]

There's a store near me where you can actually buy balisongs, not trainers. I live in Canada as well. Actually, my cousin who is a mounty bought one from the store

Unfortunately, still illegal.
I've seen lots of illegal things for sale in stores...and it's YOU that gets in trouble; many times the store somehow avoids the annoying legal hassles.

I'd stick with the trainers. I had one trainer which was a dulled down bali, which I ground into a combination screwdriver and bottle opener.
Wish I still had it.

[jc0228]

Unfortunately, still illegal.
I've seen lots of illegal things for sale in stores...and it's YOU that gets in trouble; many times the store somehow avoids the annoying legal hassles.

I'd stick with the trainers. I had one trainer which was a dulled down bali, which I ground into a combination screwdriver and bottle opener.
Wish I still had it.

I didn't buy any, I keep my only one at home, I got it when I was small for 10$.

[roughneckrob]

I had a Bali when I was a kid to. I grew up in Newfoundland and there is an island just off the coast called St.Pierre. It is actually a part of France and Bali's are legal there, we used to go on school field trips in elementary school and they would sell them to us. Not sure what the laws were in the 80's when I was in elementary school nobody cared.

[tapedeck74]

Just go to a flea and see what people are selling. Cheap Chinese crap, yes.....it's like the laundry list of silly prohibited ninja weapons.