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    3 Older Knives. Any info is appreciated!


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    Left: Old Timer (on handle). SCHRADE USA 152 (on bottom of blade)
    Middle: West-Cut Boulder, Colo Made in USA (on the blade)
    Right: Puma Solingen (On one side of blade). Rostfrei (On opposite side of blade)

    Any information you guys could tell me about these would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks!
    Ranger

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    Far left, Schrade Sharpfinger 70's/80's made knife. Old Timer was a brand made by Schrade, just like Uncle Henry
    Middle-West-cut was a cheaper line put out by Western states cutlery
    Right- Puma was a German based manufacturer of cutlery (that is all I know)

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    Thats a start! Thank you!

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    About the Puma knife, I can tell you, that itīs made of stainless steel (that means rostfrei). Are there any stamps on the blade? If thereīs a number, please post it here and we can look at Puma Messer, when it was made. Just because of the pic, I can hardly tell you something. Puma is a very, very traditional cutlery company here in Germany. They are known for making great knives.

    The Schrade looks like a Sharpfinger to me. More I can tell you not, right now. There might be other experts here on BFC.

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    Andi

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    There are no other markings on the blade. The sheath has puma stamped into the leather with a picture of a puma right above it. But other than that, nothing.

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    Hm... then itīs hard to say, sorry. If there would be any stamps or whatever, we could ask for the information on the Puma HP.



    Kind regards
    Andi

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    Howdy and welcome to BladeForums!

    There are many forums here. Among them is the Bernard Levine Knife Collecting and Identification Forum. I'm going to move your thread there.

    The folks there will likely want closeups of the tang stamps. A lot can be told from the style and method of marking beyond what the markings actually say.
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    Okay thanks for the move!

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    As others mentioned, the Schrade 152OT Sharpfinger was likely produced in the late 1970's through early eighties. I base this on the sheath design, assuming the knife and sheath have always been together.

    This is the second design sheath (rounded end choil retainer strap, c. 1977), the first (pointed end choil retainer strap) being discontinued in the late 1970's (1976). A third design with handle retainer strap was introduced in the early to mid-eighties and continued until the company closed in July of 2004.

    A fourth pouch style sheath, SAS-19 I think, was used briefly circa 1983-85, mostly for limited editions and special factory orders. I have one example positively dated as 1983, an SFO for Peterson Publishing (Guns & Ammo Magazine) still in it's original post-marked box.

    The knife pattern itself dates from 1974-2004. I cannot see the text style used on the marking to tell where the knife itself fits in the timeline. I can say that it is almost certainly pre-2002 by the fact that it has a carbon steel blade and is plain ground, not stainless hollow ground and it was in the last few years of production. I hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humppa View Post
    Hm... then itīs hard to say, sorry. ...
    Andi
    No, Andy, why should it be hard to say?

    This knife pattern was introduced by PUMA in the early 1950s, while other Solingen cutlers had introduced such knives with great success prior to that time.
    A post 1954 PUMA sales catalog is illustrating several options of such sheath knives:



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    Hi Germania!

    Itīs hard for me to say, because I donīt have further information about that knife. Where did you get that catalogue info? Thank you for sharing your knowledge, Sir

    Kind regards
    Andi

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    PUMA sales catalog

    Quote Originally Posted by Humppa View Post
    ... Where did you get that catalogue info? ...

    Andi
    From my cutlery archieves and some German 1950s cutlery magazines.
    BTW: some internet information are dating the PUMA catalog in question to the 1940s which cannot be correct.
    Several knives illustrated in that sales catalog are reported as novelties in German magazines in 1954.

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    Thank you, germania.

    You know - I hadnīt had that information, so it was hard for me (!) to say.

    These information are helpful for everyone.

    Kind regards
    Andi

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