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    180 days??? More probation??? You have got to be kidding me. A man convicted of felony possession of a deadly weapon, is found in possession of a firearm
    and barely gets a slap on the wrist. Black ski mask in summer? Gee! I wonder what that could be for? Does anyone want to bet that he does it again?

    I some parts of the country a felon would got to prison for a loooooong time for the possession of an empty cartridge case. Oh! Wait! This is in California.


    Convicted Felon Found with Firearm Gets 180 Days in Jail
    Joseph Roberson, 21, Eligible for Electronic Monitoring

    Monday, August 6, 2012
    by CODY BASHORE

    A convicted felon was sentenced to 180 days in jail on Friday after a routine traffic stop in June resulted in the discovery of a .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol, a loaded magazine, and 500 rounds of ammunition in his car.

    Joseph Roberson, 21, who was on felony probation for possession of a deadly weapon, pleaded guilty to possession of firearm by a convicted felon. Police had pulled over Roberson because he didn’t have his headlights on, and officers determined he was subject to search as a condition of his probation.

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    That search resulted in the discovery of a black ski mask, black gloves, and a black bandanna in a bag on the car’s back seat. At the time of his arrest, Roberson told police he obtained the firearm from a friend that he would not identify, but never gave an explanation for the rest of the items in the car.

    Additionally, at his sentencing Friday morning, Roberson’s original probation was revoked and reinstated for another three years with conditions that include him being subject to search and seizure.

    Roberson has credit for 25 days served, and is eligible for the Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program (SWAP) or electronic monitoring.

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    Jails to full to keep him any longer than 180 days?
    Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
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    6 months on a weapons violation, not too bad for CA, just hope he doesn't get let out early. Maybe he'll get shanked while doing jailtime.
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    This beggars belief!

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    I just wrote a pretty long reply, then I looked and saw that this was in Current Events and not the Political Arena, so I made the choice to delete my Very Political suggestions.

    I assume that the consistency with which these Violent offenders are being released that there is a point to the State Government doing so.

    That it is an "on purpose", not a because they have to.
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    California has a huge problem right now: their jails are chock-a-block full. In some cases, California judges are issuing sentences in hours because that is all the jail time that is available.
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    "California", is about all that needs to be said....
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    If the jails are overcrowded, why don't they just build more of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hostileuniverse View Post
    If the jails are overcrowded, why don't they just build more of them?
    4 or 5 to a cell would help.
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    Isn't this actually a bit of good news for gun people? While it appears that California has very strict gun laws, when they catch you violating one of them, they seem to go kind of easy on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm61 View Post
    Isn't this actually a bit of good news for gun people? While it appears that California has very strict gun laws, when they catch you violating one of them, they seem to go kind of easy on you.
    My shooting buddy was a former litigation attorney for the so-called "Ring of Fire" firearms manufacturers in Southern Cal. He once told me that it is estimated there are over 500K people just in So. Cal who regularly CC without a permit. That's just So. Cal...
    Originally Posted by Bastid
    -Convincing knuckleheads that the real key tool lies between the ears in creativity, application of common sense, adaptation and thinking out of the box might just be a losing battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWL View Post
    My shooting buddy was a former litigation attorney for the so-called "Ring of Fire" firearms manufacturers in Southern Cal. He once told me that it is estimated there are over 500K people just in So. Cal who regularly CC without a permit. That's just So. Cal...
    I wouldn't doubt that. In the metropolitan areas (LA, SF, Sacto, ect.) it is just about impossible to get a CCW unless you are a personal friend with the sheriff or police chief.
    In Santa Barbara, it used to be possible, but it cost around $450 and the new sheriff says no. It is less difficult in the rural counties of No. PRK.
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    You still won't find me with a gun. Not unless social collapse, and in that case I think they have more to worry about than this felon carrying a firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm61 View Post
    Isn't this actually a bit of good news for gun people? While it appears that California has very strict gun laws, when they catch you violating one of them, they seem to go kind of easy on you.
    Actually, first time offense for CC gun without a permit is a misdemeanor, however CC a fixed blade is a felony.

    Before people go nuts & comment about liberal CA gun laws, it was actually Ronald Reagan who started down the road of gun control in CA back when he was Governor (67-75). Back then, there was a lot of civil & racial strife in CA, where TV showed armed blacks and American Indians protesting for civil rights on a daily basis. That lead to the conservative right freaking out about race wars (Watts riot just happened in 1965) and this began organized efforts to prevent Californians from legal carry. Gun control in CA mirrored the south where it was meant to keep firearms from out of the hands of the poor, especially black people.

    Now I did vote for the Raygun for President, but he was responsible for gun control originating in CA...
    Originally Posted by Bastid
    -Convincing knuckleheads that the real key tool lies between the ears in creativity, application of common sense, adaptation and thinking out of the box might just be a losing battle.

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    Well, you have to admit that when the Black Panthers showed up inside the state capital building armed and their wasn't anything the law could do about it, many people might be inclined to overreact. LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by CWL View Post
    Actually, first time offense for CC gun without a permit is a misdemeanor, however CC a fixed blade is a felony.

    Before people go nuts & comment about liberal CA gun laws, it was actually Ronald Reagan who started down the road of gun control in CA back when he was Governor (67-75). Back then, there was a lot of civil & racial strife in CA, where TV showed armed blacks and American Indians protesting for civil rights on a daily basis. That lead to the conservative right freaking out about race wars (Watts riot just happened in 1965) and this began organized efforts to prevent Californians from legal carry. Gun control in CA mirrored the south where it was meant to keep firearms from out of the hands of the poor, especially black people.

    Now I did vote for the Raygun for President, but he was responsible for gun control originating in CA...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWL View Post
    Now I did vote for the Raygun for President, but he was responsible for gun control originating in CA...
    That may be true, but CA the Liberal Whackos ran with it beyond reason and they continue to get worse. Why do you think so many people refuse to ship guns to CA?

    Before you say that I don't know what I'm talking about, let me say that I was born and raised in Los Angeles and lived in CA until we moved to AZ in 2004. I worked
    in the gun business for the last 16 years. As long as the Whackos keep electing Whackos to the CA legislature it will only get worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UffDa View Post
    That may be true, but CA the Liberal Whackos ran with it beyond reason and they continue to get worse. Why do you think so many people refuse to ship guns to CA?

    Before you say that I don't know what I'm talking about, let me say that I was born and raised in Los Angeles and lived in CA until we moved to AZ in 2004. I worked
    in the gun business for the last 16 years. As long as the Whackos keep electing Whackos to the CA legislature it will only get worse.
    No disagreement with you on current whack-jobs trying to stifle gun rights. I just wanted to paint a historical perspective on how gun control actually originated in CA and other parts of this country. Too bad it originated from the Right.
    Originally Posted by Bastid
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    Honestly the worst part about it is that this guy had so little social support that he had to turn back to old habits to survive. With the current system of for profit jails, and paid off judges throwing guys in jail for kickbacks, most felons don't stand much of a chance. How is it that the US puts more people behind bars than anywhere else in the world, and yet some how, it doesn't seem to effect crime in the slightest? I'll stop before it starts smelling political, I have no dog in this fight.

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