Age of these Finnish and one Swedish knives?

[Ishrub]

I think I got these for a reasonable price US $84.99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-antique-La...item3a790dd64b

ebay item description:

1 antique Lapp knife + 3 older knives + 1 Lapp bone knife. On picture 1 you can see the hand made Lapp bone knife. It is 24 cm long, 2,2 cm broad and is engraved with a typical Lapp pattern. One side of the bone knife has some small marks on the edge.

See pictures and detailed descriptions:

Picture 2: An antique hand made Lapp knife from northern Sweden. It is a fine knife and the knife blade is in good shape. It is marked with a designers name but it isn't possible to see what it says. The knife blade is 9,5 cm long, 1,5 cm broad. The knife handle is made of rein deer horn and it is engraved with a picture of the head and horns of a rein deer. It has also an engraved band of typically lapp pattern. The handle has a 2,5 cm long crack in the bone at one side near the blade and there is also some patina on the handle. The cover is made of leather and has become dark and hard after all years. It has also a piece of rein deer fur but it is shabby and missing some parts of the hair. But it is a beautiful knife anyway. The total lenght with the cover included is 25 cm.

Picture 3: This is a quite new and really fine Swedish Mora knife but it has a wrong cover. The cover is for a Finnish J. Marttiini knife. The Mora knife blade is in good shape, 9,2 cm long, 1,8 cm broad and marked Morakniv Sweden. The knife holder is made of horn or bone and it can be from a rein deer. There are some small, shallow marks on the handle. The knife lenght is 19 cm and in totally with the cover included 23,5 cm. It is a really nice knife.

Pictue 4: A Swedish older hunting knife in quite good condition. There is no brand marked on the knife. The knife blade is in pretty good condition but has some patina and thin scratches, it is 11 cm long, 2,5 cm broad. The knife handle is of wood and metal. The cover is made of leather with metal details and has a picture of an Elk in a forrest. The total lenght of the knife is 24 cm with the cover included.

Picture 5: This is a Finnish knife from Lapin Puukko. The knife is not so very old. The knife blade is marked with the Lapin Puukko brand. The blade is 12,5 cm long, 2,2 cm broad and has pretty much patina. The handle is made of wood and metal and the wooden part has cracks and scratches. The cover is made of leather and is marked with the Finish brand and pattern. The total lenght is 24 cm the cover included.

[Thomas Linton]

Nice group. Lapin Puukko Oy says it was established in 1974. Your last knife looks like their illustration of their "Leuku knife."

[Ishrub]

Nice group. Lapin Puukko Oy says it was established in 1974. Your last knife looks like their illustration of their "Leuku knife."

Thanks Thomas, the link you suggested certainly looks like it and will have to check if blade is really 12.5 cm as listed or 10.5 cm as per similar version you noted.

http://www.lapinpuukko.fi/en/products/leukuknives/



Leuku knife 3
Blade length 105 mm (4.2").
All-round knife for hunting, fishing, hiking, and professional users.
Product nr. 3003
Price 26,50 €
incl. VAT 23%

[makandr]

Doubtful attribution.

[Ishrub]

Doubtful attribution.

Why makandr? I have added above, the website's photo of the Leuku knife 3.

[makandr]

"Age of these Swedish knives?"
I'm talking about this inscription. I see on the photo definitely one Swedish scout knife in Swedish sheat, one Mora blade with Sami handle, Sami Leuku and another Sami knife all in Finnish sheath. Judging by the fact that knives in the Finnish sheath they are likely to have been used in the north of Finland.

[Thomas Linton]

makandr, the one with the guard is the Swedish Scout knife? I know I have seen that one before. Can you say when it was Swedish Scout knife? Before WW II?

[CWL]

The one with the guard is the "scout" knife. Very common pattern used throughout Europe, but that one was manufactured in Sweden anywhere between 1920's-1960.

P. Holmberg was a major manufacturer of these knives during that time.

[parbajtor]

I don't know what you classify as antique, but I'd say these are probably all post WW2 manufactured. The knife in picture 2 was probably a forged blade, but the others are machine stamped. My best guess would be '60s. Rick Stein would be your man for an "expert opinion"

[makandr]

Very difficult to identify knife by date which produced unchanged for decades. Judging by the button on the sheath the knife could easily be made before the war, but there is no guarantee that this sheath is for this knife but, of course, sheath is correct. I'm sorry, I'm talking only about the scout knife, all the other are post-war.

[Thomas Linton]

Thank you.

[Ishrub]

Thanks all and especially makandr for such great information, just have to wait for their arrival now.

One last question - is this bone knife just a souvenir letter opener or 'real' and used as a snow knife* or something else?
*Snow knives are used by Inuit (Eskimo) to cut blocks of snow to make shelters etc usually longer than this and made of whale baleen or animal bone.

[makandr]

To be honest - I do not know what's a snow knife but they are real knives not souvenirs. This is the link with many photos of Sami with knives: http://rusknife.com/index.php/topic/...0%D0%BC%D0%B8/ .
My photo of Lapland.

[Thomas Linton]

Fantastic bunch of photos.

[Ishrub]

The commentary is quite good too, even with just a Bing translation:

Armored to the teeth ! "There is nothing worse than a spoon! One stroke-and skull in the crumbs! "

Caption to post #27 photo.



http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...0%D0%BC%D0%B8/

[BriantheBlade]

Very cool link makandr! is the guy in post #3 holding one of these bone knives? kind of looks like it. This thread is making me want to go back to Finland, absolutely beautiful country full of very friendly people and amazing knives!
thanks for sharing!
Brian

[makandr]

Welcome. http://rusknife.com/index.php/topic/...#1086;ж/

[makandr]

I've never seen a bone Sami knife moreover they do not live in the igloo. And here is "snow" Swedish knife the Swedes were cleaning by these knives skiing.

[CWL]

Hey makandr,

What is the general "Russian" attitude towards the Finns? Any animosity from the Winter War & WWII? Just curious and amazed that Finnland managed to retain their country after siding with the Germans in WWII.

[Cougar Allen]

They didn't really side with the Germans. In the Continuation War they only took back what was theirs and refused to go any farther despite Hitler's urgings ... it's a long story.