POLL: Who believes the election process is real?

[foxx]

No not SATAN, they serve themselves and their financial backers.

[timcsaw]

No not SATAN, they serve themselves and their financial backers.

And they are?

[quietmike]

Bilderbergers, trilateral commission, the oil companies.

[Over Kill]

Well if real means voting for one of two people whom you despise to lead our country, then id say its real enough.

[timcsaw]

Well if real means voting for one of two people whom you despise to lead our country, then id say its real enough.

Which one do you think is more despicable?

[Kiah]

Bilderbergers, trilateral commission,

You forgot the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bohemians, etc. I'm not really a conspiracy guy, but there's certainly validity to certain groups at least being consulted on policy before it goes public. You don't gather politicians together in secrecy to play checkers.

the oil companies.

This one is certainly relevant. Oil companies gathering together to write Romney checks right before he announces his energy policy doesn't make you go WTF just a little?

[Triton]

You forgot the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bohemians, etc. I'm not really a conspiracy guy, but there's certainly validity to certain groups at least being consulted on policy before it goes public. You don't gather politicians together in secrecy to play checkers.



This one is certainly relevant. Oil companies gathering together to write Romney checks right before he announces his energy policy doesn't make you go WTF just a little?

For the sake of arguement suppose that the evil oil companies outright own Romney. Who would you rather have in charge of our energy policy, the evil oil companies who in the end have to turn a profit and provide energy or a bunch of unelected federal beuracrats who shovel money into things like Solyndra?

[jdm61]

and think that energy is evil......

For the sake of arguement suppose that the evil oil companies outright own Romney. Who would you rather have in charge of our energy policy, the evil oil companies who in the end have to turn a profit and provide energy or a bunch of unelected federal beuracrats who shovel money into things like Solyndra?

[shunsui]

I've heard commentary that there's about five countries in the world that have fair elections.

Who knows ? I'm no expert.

[Kiah]

For the sake of arguement suppose that the evil oil companies outright own Romney. Who would you rather have in charge of our energy policy, the evil oil companies who in the end have to turn a profit and provide energy or a bunch of unelected federal beuracrats who shovel money into things like Solyndra?

Missed it by a mile.

Should the pharmaceutical companies control the FDA (I'll pretend for a second that they don't)? Should Monsanto be put in charge of the DoA?

Alternative energy? Pfft. We'll never run out of oil.

[jdm61]

I've heard commentary that there's about five countries in the world that have fair elections.

Who knows ? I'm no expert.

You need to be careful with lists like that and ones like the "corruption index." Sometimes, you might find that countries that the typical American on this forum might consider to be a tad oppressive in some ways, like Denmark or Singapore, will be very high up those lists.

[richard thurman]

Ummm, do you think this started with Obama? Get your facts straight: http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/12s1299.pdf Look how much money was being given away during the Bush years. We've been giving money to shore up other governments long before Obama was elected.

yes we have but that does not mean to keep doing it. I think he has not done any thing while in the white house but screw thing up more than ever. why has he block the pipe line from canda to the USA?? why has he not allowed any oil companys fron the USA to drill for oil in the gulf of Mexico but all of the other countrys are allowed to do it??? all of those jobs that they would of have to do the building.

[Kiah]

yes we have but that does not mean to keep doing it. I think he has not done any thing while in the white house but screw thing up more than ever. why has he block the pipe line from canda to the USA?? why has he not allowed any oil companys fron the USA to drill for oil in the gulf of Mexico but all of the other countrys are allowed to do it??? all of those jobs that they would of have to do the building.

Um, we had a bit of "minor spill" down there if you recall. They're drilling again now though. What makes you think they aren't? Drilling in the eastern gulf has been banned since 1995.

[richard thurman]

Um, we had a bit of "minor spill" down there if you recall. They're drilling again now though. What makes you think they aren't? Drilling in the eastern gulf has been banned since 1995.

what about the pipe line from canda?? also every one eles is setting up drilling platforms out there so why not us??

[Kiah]

what about the pipe line from canda?? also every one eles is setting up drilling platforms out there so why not us??

Are you referring to the Keystone pipeline? It's not cut off. The Keystone XL proposal was (temporarily anyway) based on Republicans forcing a deadline on the decision. You might wanna look into the actual problems involved. You can start with Wikipedia if you like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline

Not sure where you're getting your info, but you might wanna start looking for alternative sources.

[Triton]

Missed it by a mile.

Should the pharmaceutical companies control the FDA (I'll pretend for a second that they don't)? Should Monsanto be put in charge of the DoA?

Alternative energy? Pfft. We'll never run out of oil.

Again, who should be in charge, people with a vested interest in making sure that energy arrives in the marketplace as cheaply as possible or those that have a vested interest in well... something else entirely. For me, if I want energy I put an expert on energy in charge. Since most experts work in the industry it stands to reason that is where you will find them. Considering the obama's dismal failure on energy policy (not to mention billions shifted to his crony capitalist failure buddies) I'd be willing to give the industry experts at least some input wouldn't you?

[Triton]

Are you referring to the Keystone pipeline? It's not cut off. The Keystone XL proposal was (temporarily anyway) based on Republicans forcing a deadline on the decision. You might wanna look into the actual problems involved. You can start with Wikipedia if you like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline

Not sure where you're getting your info, but you might wanna start looking for alternative sources.

The obama could have okayed the pipeline, but he decided his enviro-wacko constituency was more important so he killed it didn't he? The "more study is needed bit" is just so much hogwash considering the number of pipelines already running through the region in question.

[timcsaw]

The obama could have okayed the pipeline, but he decided his enviro-wacko constituency was more important so he killed it didn't he? The "more study is needed bit" is just so much hogwash considering the number of pipelines already running through the region in question.

Obama was put between a rock and a hard place on this one... If he approved the pipeline he'd PO the enviro-wacko constituency (right before an election), but the Union jobsters would be happy. If he denied the pipeline he'd PO the Union jobsters (right before the election) and make the eviro-wacko's happy, so no matter his decision, he'd be POing a big group of his apostles right before the election.... so oh my, what's an empty suit to do?!?! Postpone ANY DECISION until AFTER the election!!!

TRANSPARENCY in action folks.

[powernoodle]

Who believes the election process is real?

Considering that the state primaries are manipulated in such a way that my party's candidate is already chosen for me by the time my primary occurs, I would say no, the election is not "real" in that regard. I'm about 1 mm away from changing my party registration - to what I do not know.

[timcsaw]

Considering that the state primaries are manipulated in such a way that my party's candidate is already chosen for me by the time my primary occurs, I would say no, the election is not "real" in that regard. I'm about 1 mm away from changing my party registration - to what I do not know.

Maybe we could send a subtle hint to both parties that "we the people are a bit miffed" if we ALL (both sides) change our party registrations to "Independent".