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    Quote Originally Posted by knarfeng View Post
    If the thread had been struggling, I might have moved it. But the answers have been forthcoming right here, so there was no need.
    Thanks,They can't have ALL the fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knarfeng View Post
    If the thread had been struggling, I might have moved it. But the answers have been forthcoming right here, so there was no need.
    Thanks,I was doing more a show and tell than a Whatizit.It is a bit of a strange bird though.I remembered seeing the pattern in books i have packed away.

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    I may have to start a thread that asks about the design itself. I am fascinated by this.

    Edit to add: The knife in question is made as it is so that perfect squares of Pecan tree bark can be cut to enable the grafting. You cut one precise square of bark from one tree and graft it into another precise square on the tree you are enhancing.
    This has been a fun exercise. Thank you Don, I love to learn.


    Quote Originally Posted by waynorth View Post
    I believe you have a budding knife for pecan growers. Used to cut and graft buds on a precise piece of bark, to add a branch where you want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protourist View Post
    I may have to start a thread that asks about the design itself. I am fascinated by this.

    Edit to add: The knife in question is made as it is so that perfect squares of Pecan tree bark can be cut to enable the grafting. You cut one precise square of bark from one tree and graft it into another precise square on the tree you are enhancing.
    This has been a fun exercise. Thank you Don, I love to learn.
    Outstanding!If only i had the pecan plantation to go along with.Trees are loaded this year.Finally rained in Texas!

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    Very interesting find!! I have never seen one either. Gotta love this forum. Thanks for sharing, Don

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    I don't think I'd carry it, but really cool. Never seen anything like that.

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    This item might have been moved also, except, by the time we got to it, there were already significant answers showing that no move was necessary. Gary and I are volunteers, as are all the mods on the site, and we do have other things going on in our lives. We are not online monitoring the forum 24-7. So every post gets read, or at least scanned over, but it may take some time before one of us sees it. There were some 300 posts in the Traditional forum yesterday. Busy, even for here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seals View Post
    Outstanding!If only i had the pecan plantation to go along with.Trees are loaded this year.Finally rained in Texas!
    Did I hear you say Pecan Pie?

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    Lovely knife.

    I'm still not sure why pecan grafting would involve replacing squares of bark? Anybody know? I don't know any other trees that do that, although cork oak harvesting is pretty specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eisman View Post
    Lovely knife.

    I'm still not sure why pecan grafting would involve replacing squares of bark? Anybody know? I don't know any other trees that do that, although cork oak harvesting is pretty specific.
    One of the[donor] squares of bark would have a budding branch in the middle of it.It would be put in place of the square that had been removed from the [recipient] tree. The budding branch would then grow with the characteristics of the parent[donor] tree but on the recipient tree. Usually done to keep characteristics from an old,dying tree or to graft soft shell pecan branches onto native hardshell trees. I watched my grandad do it as a kid.--KV

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    Found this video on 'Patch budding' pecan trees in southern NM. Demonstrates use of this type of double-bladed knife to make the patch, starting around ~ 3:15 into the video.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsessed with Edges View Post
    Found this video on 'Patch budding' pecan trees in southern NM.
    Well, I'll be.

    Great find!

    To the OP: does your knife have the little metal "tap" on the end opposite the blades, for popping off the bud patch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pertinux View Post
    Well, I'll be.

    Great find!

    To the OP: does your knife have the little metal "tap" on the end opposite the blades, for popping off the bud patch?

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    I hope that vid was informative. I actually haven't watched the whole thing yet; my internet connection (wireless) is horrid slow.

    I don't think Don's (Seals) knife has the 'bark lifter' tab (I think that's what it's called). In looking online, I'm seeing some styles of these that are a fixed-blade type also, instead of a folder like Don's. These things don't seem to be cheap, either (yikes!). Some very specialized horticultural sites are selling these 'budding knives', or at least the modern incarnations of them.

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    Fascinating, that such a specialized knife ever had a market, let alone is still produced today.

    I guess "using a ruler" got old, fast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pertinux View Post
    Fascinating, that such a specialized knife ever had a market, let alone is still produced today.

    I guess "using a ruler" got old, fast?

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    Maybe so.

    I did see another very short vid (< 1 min.) yesterday, which showed someone who obviously does this sort of work for a living (patch budding pecan trees), using the same type of knife, and VERY fast with the procedure. The viewing angle/perspective made it somewhat hard to see everything he was doing, but it did seem to illustrate how this specialized tool can speed the process up. I'll see if I can find that one again, and I'll link it here if I do.

    (Edit) Here it is:
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    That is fascinating. I had a long discussion about this with Chris, CJ65, today. He dabbles in Horticulture and explained a lot to me.

    The wonderful things we learn by paying attention to Knife Knuts on this forum. Thank you everyone for the continuing education.

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    Thanks to everyone involved in this very informative thread! I learned some things I never knew I wanted to know.
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