Trident and Trident II

[caine]

whats the diff. other than the sheaths

[D R E]

The stock is a bit thinner and a different finish on all the steel surfaces. Looks like a great idea long in the making.

Dan

[Chris@SOG]

The biggest difference between the Trident and Trident II lies on the thickness of the steel stock used in making the blade. The original Trident used .280" thick steel where the new Trident II uses .240" steel. Other wise the blade shapes are almost identical, both have Micarta washer handles and stainless steel cross guard and pommel. By going to a slightly thinner steel stock we were able to make the Trident into a more affordable knife that someone might be more inclined to use. The sheath is the same leahter sheath and the finish on the steel parts is a satin finish just like the original Trident.

If you have any other questions please let me know.

Chris

PS - If you can find an original Trident get it because there are no more to be had.

[caine]

i have a org trident

[JTC]

Chris,
Could you tell me where the new Bowie II and Trident II models are manufactured? I have always wanted a Bowie or Trident but could'nt swing the price (but I believe they are worth every penny). I may be able to manage one of the new models. They sure look good. Thanks!


John

[New Pig Hunter]

I'm lost...... again.

Chris says, "....to make the Trident ..... someone .... might be more inclined to use."

just teasing !! SOG's are made for using !! No SOG safe-queens at my house.

Cheers,

Carl

p.s. oh, I just remembered Robbie and his "problem"....... NOW I understand what (and who) Chris was talking about.

[Robbie Roberson]

Problem............. Do you think wearing white sox on your hands every time you look at your knives is a problem ?

Do you think wearing a dust mask anytime you look at your knives is a problem ?

When I open a box of my knives, it sounds like opening a coffee can , you can hear the air whistle in because they are so dry and moisture free.

As I often say, now thats knife maintenance.......

Robbie Roberson

[socintel]

LOL.... you make me laugh.


P.S. your kidding right.

[Robbie Roberson]

Kidding ?.... I also have a white hazard suit with hood, but I sweat so bad in it I had to quit wearing it.












Actually, I have been known to wear socks on my hands when handling some of my very old knives in mint condition. This is to cut down on finger prints on some of the older carbon steel blades.

Robbie Roberson

[socintel]

WOW, Robbie really was not kidding, look, I even found a picture of him examining his collection.

[Ron Andersen]

Hey Chris,

Originally Posted by Chris@SOG

The biggest difference between the Trident and Trident II lies on the thickness of the steel stock used in making the blade.

What's the country of origon (or better stated, the country where the blades are heat treated and ground) on the new Trident and other of the new fixed blades (such as the Daggart, SEAL Pup Elite, Tech Bowie, etc.)? Just wondering if there was a move from Japan to Taiwan.

Thanks.

[Robbie Roberson]

Originally Posted by socintel

WOW, Robbie really was not kidding, look, I even found a picture of him examining his collection.

Notice the 55 gallon drums ? They are filled with knife polish....

Robbie Roberson

[New Pig Hunter]

Hey Robbie,

something we'all in the aerospace industry use for preservation is dry nitrogen.

just keep your knives in a plastic bag from which you first pull out all the air, and then fill with dry nitrogen.

In Costly Helpfulness,

Carl

[Robbie Roberson]

Carl, that is such good advice, thanks a bunch.

Robbie Roberson

[nutz_about_knives]

Originally Posted by Chris@SOG

The biggest difference between the Trident and Trident II lies on the thickness of the steel stock used in making the blade. The original Trident used .280" thick steel where the new Trident II uses .240" steel. Other wise the blade shapes are almost identical, both have Micarta washer handles and stainless steel cross guard and pommel. By going to a slightly thinner steel stock we were able to make the Trident into a more affordable knife that someone might be more inclined to use. The sheath is the same leahter sheath and the finish on the steel parts is a satin finish just like the original Trident.

If you have any other questions please let me know.

Chris

PS - If you can find an original Trident get it because there are no more to be had.

Is there any noticable difference whether the blade thickness is .280" or .160"?? Although some may say that a thinner blade would break more easily but I'm not so sure about that unless you jab your knife into a street-lamp...

[socintel]

Originally Posted by nutz_about_knives

Is there any noticable difference whether the blade thickness is .280" or .160"?? Although some may say that a thinner blade would break more easily but I'm not so sure about that unless you jab your knife into a street-lamp...

A knife with a blade thickness of .160" will not be as tough as a knife with a .280" thick blade. Why do you ask though, none of the SOGs we are talking about have a .160" thick blade?

[New Pig Hunter]

as I recall, the Gov't Agent is 0.160" thick..... way too thin for me, the SOG folks have ruined me on 0.250" and thicker !!

If all you're doing is cutting then a very thin kitchen knife is plenty thick.

But out in the field I prefer something thicker. Which is of course a snotty & snooty & biased & prejudiced statement on my part in favor of thick blades. One just never knows when that unopened beer can doesn't want to be opened.... I prefer to be prepared for that eventuality.

As a pal once told me, "It is not until your knife actually breaks that will you know that it was a too-expensive pry bar, and you should have purchased a knife with a thicker blade."

Cheers,

Carl

[JTC]

Nobody knows where the Trident II is manufactured?

[nutz_about_knives]

Originally Posted by nutz_about_knives

Is there any noticable difference whether the blade thickness is .280" or .160"?? Although some may say that a thinner blade would break more easily but I'm not so sure about that unless you jab your knife into a street-lamp...

Well I know that the SOG pentagon elite II has a blade thickness of .160", so though it may look sturdy it may well snap into 2 when it comes to prying I guess?

[Ron Andersen]

Hey Carl,

Originally Posted by New Pig Hunter

as I recall, the Gov't Agent is 0.160" thick..... way too thin for me, the SOG folks have ruined me on 0.250" and thicker !!

Like you, I prefer a "thick" blade. Along with that is a car with a lot of horsepower, a computer with a fast processor, a stereo with a lot of watts, a TV with a lot of inches, etc........... I think you get the point.

But, in support of the Government, I'm blown away by:

1. Its balance: Hold the knife just about anyway and it just feels "RIGHT." Maybe call it a "Porsche 911" (sport car) or an Audi RS 6" (a sedan with its hair on fire): maybe not the ultimate Italian thoroughbred, but well-balanced, sure-footed, and highly capable German engineering.
2. It rarely breaks: Coming from someone who managed SOG's customer service for many years (including the administration of all warranty claims), I can say that very few were ever sent back because of them snapping in half. When they did fail (at mid blade), it was because they were dropped on their "flat" side onto concrete/rock, resulting in the shock snapping them. Assuming they were in non-abused condition, I replaced it. If it was in abused condition, they got a "second" or a big discount on a replacement...MSOP (My Standard Operating Procedure). I saw more tip issues with the Government...this was due to the knife not having a "reinforced" tip and people either throwing the knife, prying with the tip, or driving the knife's tip deep into wood. But overall, I was very pleased with it's performance.

If someone is going to need an all-out, do-all, abuse knife, I'd recommend something else. But for someone who can live with something about 8/10ths of a thoroughbred Ferrari, the Government will do quite excellently.