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BD1 Steel

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by aqgonzo, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. aqgonzo

    aqgonzo

    19
    Aug 29, 2010
    I don't know much about this steel on the lightweight manix 2. What other steels can it be compared to.
     
  2. GCG199

    GCG199

    Apr 26, 2001
    Going by previous threads about it, it's supposed to be Carpenter Steel's version of Japanese GIN-1.

    Having looked at it on the Spyderco 2011 steel chart, it looks like it should perform a lot like Japanese Aus-8 or Chinese 8Cr13MoV.

    They are also considering using it in the new line of kitchen knives too.
     
  3. Frozy

    Frozy

    479
    Apr 3, 2010
    It is quite decent when it comes to edge holding, similiar to ColdSteel's Aus 8. It could be me, but i have difficulty sharpening BD1 to a razor edge.
     
  4. Shakyamuni

    Shakyamuni

    319
    Aug 29, 2011
    Frozy, not just you. I was having trouble with getting it razor sharp too. The problem I had was that I was getting burrs, so someone suggested cutting into a piece of wood after sharpening to remove the burrs, and that helped a lot. Try that.
     
  5. Frozy

    Frozy

    479
    Apr 3, 2010
    Thanks for the advice, but mine's a ukpk so i won't use it on wood. And mine doesn't seem to have burr problem
     
  6. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    Personally, I find it acts like 14c28n Sandvik, in that both seem to have very high initial edge stability, but dull more quickly than other steels once you lose that razor sharp edge. I like both for light use.
     
  7. JD Spydo

    JD Spydo Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2004
    That's interesting that you bring up that point "Frozy" because when I carried/EDCed my GIN-1 Spyderco Renegade model for almost a year at one time I noticed that as well. Now don't get me wrong because I could obtain a good toothy edge for general utility work but I couldn't get a super razor edge like I can with VG-10 or ZDP-189 for instance.

    I've yet to find a blade steel as difficult to reprofile as Crucible's older 440V (S60V) but GIN-1 was also a bit difficult to reprofile as well.

    Considering all of the newer steels out there and also considering the great dependability of VG-10 it's doubtful I would ever have any use for BD1. If it's comparable to the older GIN-1 I don't see what the advantage would be unless it's considered for Spyderco's "Byrd" line of knives.
     
  8. GCG199

    GCG199

    Apr 26, 2001
    Interesting observation. I will have to keep that in mind when I get around to picking up the Manix 2 Lightweight.
     
  9. EZ Bake

    EZ Bake Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 5, 2009
  10. DeathbySnooSnoo

    DeathbySnooSnoo

    234
    Jan 18, 2011
    I have the ukpk too, and I get that steel scary sharp...just be very consistent, and use the very lightest of pressure the last 10 strokes.

    I like BD-1 as a light use sort of steel. Not really liking it for something on a Manix platform, even a "lightweight" version. But on the ukpk, perfection I think.
     
  11. goodeyesniper

    goodeyesniper

    Aug 31, 2009
    Just curious, but what about the UKPK makes you not want to use it on wood. And it's not really "using" it on wood, for what he is describing, anyways. You want to lightly run the edge through wood, not carve it away or anything. It's hard for me to explain, but Murray Carter uses that technique to sharpen, and shows it on some youtube videos. Just one or two quick passes to kill the burr, which are sometimes hard to see or feel.

    For the record I've done way more wood work with slipjoints than with locking folders.
     
  12. allyourblood

    allyourblood

    Sep 3, 2003
    I was wondering about that statement myself. I also tend to do the majority of my woodcarving with non-locking knives.
     
  13. Frozy

    Frozy

    479
    Apr 3, 2010
    Sorry, I didn't mean that the ukpk is unsafe to use, it's just that I'm not used to it. I do actually use my case peanut for all wood and plastic carvings...
     
  14. mattz357

    mattz357

    848
    Jun 20, 2002
    How does this steel perform for corrosion resistance?
     
  15. Razorsharp-Travis

    Razorsharp-Travis Banned

    612
    Aug 16, 2011
    It should have very very good corrosion resistance :)

    And Frozy, I helped shakyamuni with that problem. Just cut into the wood 2-3 times and do 3 more lite strokes on your sharpening media and you should get a better edge ;)
     
  16. Spectre

    Spectre

    Nov 3, 1998
    I was amazed at how sharp my Translucent Manix 2 got in just a few quick licks on a steel. The TM2 is my favorite Spyderco. EVER.

    John
     

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