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Cabone handles

Discussion in 'Camillus Collector's Forum' started by Vit_213, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    610
    Feb 4, 2011
    In catalogs the 70s, I see handles material called "Cabone."
    This is another name for derlin or another material?
     
  2. edbeau

    edbeau

    Jan 20, 2006
  3. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    610
    Feb 4, 2011
  4. sac troop

    sac troop

    757
    Mar 4, 2009
    Looks like the white finished scales are "Ivory Delrin" and that the various dark scales are being called "Carbone".
     
  5. edbeau

    edbeau

    Jan 20, 2006
    Could the term "Carbone" be a name brand of a type of Delrin by another company. If you look up "Carbone" on the internet all you find are carbone rings that are sold by craft stores. Hope one of the Pro's from Camillus tell us the real story.
     
  6. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    610
    Feb 4, 2011
    I purchased these knives on ebay. I think this is cabone.

    Medium Jack (#14) & Premium Stock (#67)
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    Camp Knife (#99)
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  7. Phil Gibbs

    Phil Gibbs Cutlery Student Platinum Member

    Nov 11, 1998
    Just a marketing ploy!

    Cabone = Camillus Bone (Dyed Delrin).
     
  8. edbeau

    edbeau

    Jan 20, 2006
    Thanks, Phil!!!!
     
  9. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    610
    Feb 4, 2011
    Thank you, Phil!
    Now I smile when I see the word "Genuine Cabone" :)
     
  10. thawk

    thawk Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 28, 2006
    Schrade had Genuine Staglon® too... and Camillus had Brownstag®
     
  11. citytransplant

    citytransplant

    214
    Apr 12, 2008
    Cabone vs. Brownstag? I'm confused. While I understand that these terms (for some type of plastic material) were marketing terms unique to Camillus knives, can anyone explain the difference between these 2 handle materials? Are the beautiful knives that Vit pictured above outfitted with Cabone or Brownstag handles? Thanks.
     
  12. deltaboy

    deltaboy

    Jul 6, 2014
    I got a #67 off EBay and the scales have shrunk almost 1/8 on both sides. Otherwise it in great shape.
     
  13. Phil Gibbs

    Phil Gibbs Cutlery Student Platinum Member

    Nov 11, 1998
    If the scales have shrunk it is not Delrin handles!
    Likely older celluloid handles.

     
  14. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    Phil, as usual, is correct. A form of molded styrene was also used for a while as an early replacement for cell. It was almost as unstable and pyrotechnic.
     
  15. deltaboy

    deltaboy

    Jul 6, 2014
    Thanks
     
  16. jerryd6818

    jerryd6818

    190
    Dec 28, 2006
    You see Brownstag® in the catalogs starting in 1957 and last seen in the 1965 catalog. I have assumed Brownstag® was a synthetic that replaced that molded styrene Codger_64 mentioned that shrunk so badly (I call it Shrinky Dink after the childs toy from the '70s-'80s). It's been my assumption that Brownstag® was predecessor to Delrin® which Tom Williams told me Camillus started using in 1968-1969. The next catalog I have available to me is 1972 and you see Delrin® handles listed in there as "Indian Stag" and Cabone®. (different jigging)
     
  17. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    Delrin came into use circa 1961 after the new Dupont plant was up and running at full capacity. You will definitely find Camillus knives using Delrin before 1968. Consider even the factor that Albert Baer bought the remaining stocks of Camillus in 1963 and had used Dupont Delrin in his Imperial/Schrade Walden/Ulster knives since it first became available in 1960/61.
     
  18. deltaboy

    deltaboy

    Jul 6, 2014
    Here it is.
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  19. sac troop

    sac troop

    757
    Mar 4, 2009
    I couldn't say if that's celluloid or styrene. Definitely suffers the same way my old Imperial Boy Scout knife does.
     
  20. deltaboy

    deltaboy

    Jul 6, 2014
    Thanks.
     

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