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Camillus Tang stamps and dates

Discussion in 'Camillus Collector's Forum' started by acourvil, Sep 8, 2007.

  1. acourvil

    acourvil Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Dec 2, 2006
    While we know that Camillus used numerous tang stamps through the years, that it is very hard to date a Camillus knife because tang stamps were frequently changed and sometimes old blades with early stamps were used, I thought it might be of interest to have an illustrated listing of Camillus tang stamps with approximate dates that they were used. So here's a start at that; if you see errors or have other comments, let me know and I will edit as appropriate. With one exception, these all came from electrician's knives (i.e., TL-29 or signal corp. style knives). Except for the first two, which are based on information from this forum, the date references are based on Goins Encyclopedia

    Camillus tang markings:

    1989-closing
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    Late 1970s or early 1980s forward (slanted font seen on hunting knife in 1973 catalog; this mark seen on pocket knife in 1988 pamphlet)
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    1976 forward (not really sure if this is different from the next, but it was on a later knife)
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    1960-1976
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    1946-1956
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    1946-1950
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    1941-1946 example a
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    1941-1946 example b (questionable origin, might be a fake)
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    1941-1946 Sword brand (front)
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    1941-1946 Sword brand (back)
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    Last edited: Jul 14, 2008
  2. Trent Rock

    Trent Rock

    Jun 29, 2007
    That is awesome!!!
    Nice macro lens work too
    Looks like mine are mostly from he 70's
    I need to get a 3/4" disco-ball for my Camillus display case now.....:eek:
     
  3. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    I've learned to take John Goins' listings with a grain of salt. While it is an important and monumental work, it is often filled with errors. In light of what CAMCO, Phil Gibbs and others have said, I tend to think of the Camillus stamps in terms of "first use", and not too strictly on "last use". "Circa" is an appropriate term to use many times. Nice photos and great info! Thanks!

    Codger
     
  4. thawk

    thawk Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 28, 2006
    Appreciate the work Acourvil. I don't have too many Camillus, but now I know what to look for on the stamps.
     
  5. acourvil

    acourvil Platinum Member Platinum Member

    606
    Dec 2, 2006
    Yes, I agree. It's too bad no one is taking an active approach to updating Goins in a credible way.

    For the Camillus stuff, having the first use date is handy, and the "range," while imprecise, is useful when looking at other clues to date the knife. I thought that thread like this might be a good way to add some of the collective knowledge of this group as well. It would be great if someone has some samples of the older Camillus marks that could be added, as well as the marks that were used on military issue knives other than the TL-29s.

    BTW, the photos were all taken with a little Canon Elph SD30, a camera I got because it was small enough to take running :)

    [3-2-08 added new pics; can't add in first message due to 10 pic limit per post]

    c. 1916 (main blade) from #33 Easy-opener
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    c. 1916 (second blade) from #33 Easy-opener
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    c.1915 from WWI Marlin Spike
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    c. 1944 from WWII Army Air Corps Emergency Machete
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    c. 1959 from Air Force Pilot's survival knife
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    c. 1940 from Camillus WWII Army Air Corps and Navy Sheath Knife

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    c. 1940 from Early WWII Marine Corp Knife or 5665 Hunting Knife

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    Last edited: Feb 8, 2010
  6. sunnyd

    sunnyd

    Jul 17, 2004
    This is fantastic!. Great information. Perhaps this thread should become permanent here as a "sticky"?!?.
     
  7. acourvil

    acourvil Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Dec 2, 2006
    Added a few more in post #5 . . .
     
  8. Trent Rock

    Trent Rock

    Jun 29, 2007
    I like the 1915 marlin spike one the best so far
    It looks REALLY old skool.....

    Nice crisp pictures BTW
    Is that with macro lens??
     
  9. acourvil

    acourvil Platinum Member Platinum Member

    606
    Dec 2, 2006
    Actually, it's my itty-bitty Canon SD30 Digital Elph on the macro setting. :)
     
  10. Rancho7

    Rancho7

    19
    Feb 11, 2008
    Great photos, How did you light it? Looks as if no flash was used?
     
  11. acourvil

    acourvil Platinum Member Platinum Member

    606
    Dec 2, 2006
    No flash, outdoors on our back porch but not in direct sunlight.
     
  12. navihawk

    navihawk

    Feb 21, 2006
    Thanks for the link acourvil. I am a new fan of Camillus.
     
  13. Fox1011

    Fox1011

    157
    Oct 23, 2003
    I have a old Camillus I wanted to find out about date of stamp mark. Came here and found you had posted just what I was hoping to find.
    This old hard rubber handle fits the 41-46 estimate you give nicely.
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    Thanks for posting!
    Ed
     
  14. greyelm

    greyelm

    131
    Nov 4, 2005
    Camillus lists this knife as a WW2 Army Air Corps Utility Knife. Looking at the fullness of the blades I would say that it is certainly worth a re-handle and clean up. It can't make it lose value as with the current shrunken scales it can't be worth much.
     
  15. navihawk

    navihawk

    Feb 21, 2006
    Greyelm, do you have a link to the camillus list or is it from that book?
     
  16. greyelm

    greyelm

    131
    Nov 4, 2005
    There is an illustration titled "Camillus Knives - that went to war!" on page 186/187 of The Standard Knife Collectors Guide 4th Edn. by Roy Ritchie and Ron Stuart. Another excellent book , full of colour prints is Pocket Knives of the United States Military by Michael W. Silvey this shows knives from many manufacturers. The following web site is dedicated to military knives in general.

    http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/
     
  17. acourvil

    acourvil Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Dec 2, 2006
    Here are the "Knives That Went to War" pages from Camillus' 1946 catalog:

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  18. navihawk

    navihawk

    Feb 21, 2006
    Great stuff acourvil, thanks again.
     
  19. orvet

    orvet

    Oct 11, 2005
    Great thread!

    Since it has been close to two years since anyone has posted on here, I thought I would kick it to the top and see if anyone had more tang stamps to add.

    Dale
     
  20. acourvil

    acourvil Platinum Member Platinum Member

    606
    Dec 2, 2006
    Added another fixed blade tang stamp :)
     

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