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CCCP AK-47 Bayonet

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by fatish, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. fatish

    fatish

    19
    Mar 25, 2008
    Yesterday my friend gave me an original Soviet bayonet for AK47 rifle. It's a fine piece of work, with a polished, heavy blade about 5mm thick, but I can't find out what kind of steel was used for production of these knives. To my untrained eye it certainly doesn't look like 420 stainless. It's at least 25 years old. All that says on the blade is CCCP (USSR) AK47.
    If anybody has any info on the subject, you're welcome to post it.

    PS: I wanted to upload the pic, but in order to insert the picture, I need a URL address, and the pic is on my desktop. What do I do?
     
  2. ColdOne

    ColdOne

    Oct 5, 2006
    Can't help with the blade info, however if you go to www.imageshack.us then you can upload the photo and show it here.
     
  3. Esav Benyamin

    Esav Benyamin MidniteSuperMod Staff Member Super Mod

    Apr 6, 2000
    Please consider using www.photobucket.com instead of ImageShack. ImageShack is rife with popunders.
     
  4. reholli

    reholli

    Jan 28, 2008
    Photobucket also performs better...

    Ray :)
     
  5. Esav Benyamin

    Esav Benyamin MidniteSuperMod Staff Member Super Mod

    Apr 6, 2000
    Photobucket just added some nice editing tools, easy to use cropping and contrast and resizing, for example.
     
  6. GIRLYmann

    GIRLYmann

    Nov 7, 2005
    "fatish"

    First, you gotta hop on to this fine site to learn about AK bayonets...
    -http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/bayoindex.html
    Learn something about Firearms Markings
    -http://www.ak-47.net/ak47/markings/index.html
    But should you, discover that what you have isn't quite like anything that which is on the first listed site;
    then, I am certainly convinced that what you might have is instead a commercial product made with great pride in the People's Republic of China.
    -http://www.deasun.com/shopimages/12817/mmobj/attachment/2021173140113971079.jpg
    -http://www.deasun.com/shopimages/12817/mmobj/attachment/5245729075742539157.jpg
    -http://www.deasun.com/shopimages/12817/mmobj/attachment/1288361045125886045.jpg
     
  7. motard2

    motard2

    40
    Jan 15, 2008
    I' have one original for shure. It was confiscated about 15 or more years ago from a detective fried of mine to a russian mafia element here in Rome. Then he gave me as a present. Is undoubtely a military item, terribly sturdy, absolutly no fashion. If you need to know any particular just drop me a sign.
     
  8. Cougar Allen

    Cougar Allen Buccaneer (ret.) Platinum Member

    Oct 9, 1998
    GIRLYmann, once again you screw up every link you attempt to post by adding a superfluous "-" to it. It's not that difficult to post a link that works....
     
  9. Snake Dr.

    Snake Dr.

    Mar 21, 2008
    Hey Fatish, Here's a few picture's of my Yugoslavian Underfolder, I think the Bayonet Is Romanian, This Is one of my Favorite AK 47's ! I got the Bayonet for 10.00 my Dealer give me a Deal on It,
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  10. fatish

    fatish

    19
    Mar 25, 2008
    OK, here it is. I couldn't find it on that site, Girlymann, but I think the quality is too fine for it to be crapy Chinese knife. Also, Ken, I served Yugoslav army in 1990, but bayonets were completely different, I had about 100 pieces in my sergeant's office where I worked. The only similarity is that you could also make wire cutters when you attach blade to the sheath. This one doesn't have that option and I can't tell if it's a knock-off, but it sure has a different, more dagger-like blade than those on that site you gave me. It came with a poor leather sheath that might be a replacement for the original one.
    PS: I took no part whatsoever in the following Yugoslav conflict, for I was dishonorably discharged from the Army after 4 months for disobeying orders.


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  11. mp510

    mp510

    Mar 20, 2006
    Fatish, unfortunately, that is a Chinese made commercial item, that is NOT a military issue bayonet. It is designed to be more of a souvenier. They are marked in a very decieving way. The Soviets did not mark their bayonets like that, nor did they issue any bayonets in that pattern. That bayonet vaguely resembles Mauser type bayonets that date the WWII and earlier vintage. They are inexpensive items. Here is a similar item for sale by BUD-K, a purveyor of imported Chinese and Pakistani cutlery.
    http://budk.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_17+BK1172

    While it is not worth much, I believe that you should treasure the bayonet for what it is- a gift from a dear friend.
     
  12. fatish

    fatish

    19
    Mar 25, 2008
    Yeah, that's the one, thanks. $12.99. Now I know why he gave it to me.:eek:
    Luckily, I bought Kershaw Junkyard Dog II that day (90.99 euros in Serbia), so I can find some comfort at least...
     
  13. GIRLYmann

    GIRLYmann

    Nov 7, 2005
    "fatish"
    You only need to have looked a little more....
    As stated by it's manufacturer Yangdong Deasun Knife & Sword Hardware Factory "Bayonet to suit AK47...very good quality..."
    Well, there it is - model #H574
    -http://www.deasun.com/shopimages/12817/mmobj/attachment/5245729075742539157.jpg
    http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00MVQTgfGlBtuvM/Bayonet.jpg

    The thing that gave it away was your description, it being polished stainless steel!
    Originals are made with some form of tool-steel; and hard chromed in a matted finish.
    And I can't say that I've seen any Soviet bayonets which were ever marked "CCCP", let alone "AK-47".
    Moreover FYI, on original USSR bayonets - you would find registration numbers marked with an Electric Stencil Pen; and sometimes the manufacturer's stamp.
     
  14. Snake Dr.

    Snake Dr.

    Mar 21, 2008
    That's a Nice Bayonet Fatish, I like the Wire Cutting feature of the AK 47 Bayonet, I think on the one I have The Romanian the Handle's are called Bake-O-Lite and they chip and arent the best I dont believe, I want to get the Bulgarian AK 47 Bayonet for my Collection, This Web-Site has some Romanian Bayonets for 10.00, Here's a Link they also have some "Very Beautiful Well Built AK 47's !" http://hammerstonearsenal.com/ Take Care !
     
  15. fatish

    fatish

    19
    Mar 25, 2008
    Yugoslav bayonet handles were made from plastic that looked durable. I'm not sure how they look now, Army (or what's left of it) is probably supplied with a NATO standard gear, I don't know if they even use bayonets nowadays.
     
  16. savagesicslayer

    savagesicslayer

    May 24, 2005
    I know that the AK bayonet that I have is super tough to sharpen.I have both an AK-47 and AK-74 bayonets.Both are tough to get an edge on but keep the edge well after it's there.My 74 bayonet has the wire cutter sheath with the detachable frog.
     
  17. mariobab

    mariobab

    174
    Dec 3, 2005
    From left to right.Chinese wannabe bayonet , M-48 bayonet and AK-47,both from former Yugoslavia.
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  18. mariobab

    mariobab

    174
    Dec 3, 2005
    AK-47,Yugoslavia version is chisel ground blade.
     
  19. Snake Dr.

    Snake Dr.

    Mar 21, 2008
    Thank's for the Info. Mariobab, And thank's for sharing the picture of the Bayonet's, Take Care !
     

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