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I am getting a milling machine

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Charlie Mike, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
  2. quint

    quint

    Nov 29, 2011
    Looks cool, I dont know much of anything about them except I want one. There was another brand that was about the same price that everyone here seemed to recommend but I cant remember the name of it.
     
  3. PT Doc

    PT Doc

    Dec 24, 2011
    Seems like many folks that have the tilting head feature don't use it and they speculate that this makes the unit less stable.
     
  4. Dan Pierson

    Dan Pierson KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 24, 2003
  5. Don Hanson III

    Don Hanson III KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 3, 2002
    Yep, I'd go to Little Machine shop and get the one with fixed column. Actually, that's what I plan to do if I don't run across an old higher quality machine first.
     
  6. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
  7. fast14riot

    fast14riot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 27, 2010
    CM, get your butt outta Fres-tuckey and head up here. A friend of mine just passed, he was a gun smith and his widow will be selling his two bench top mills and 3 lathes. He has some of your grandfathers tools and jigs too. I have dibs on one of the lathes, but there are two nice ones, a craftsman 12" and an Atlas 10". One mill is a horizontal mill he modified, too.


    -Xander
     
  8. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
  9. mgysgthath

    mgysgthath

    Dec 15, 2009
    If money wasn't an issue would you guys pick the little machine shop mill or the grizzly?
     
  10. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
  11. Don Hanson III

    Don Hanson III KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 3, 2002
    I'd go with Little Machine shop, for that size/type of mill. It appears to be a better quality import...
     
  12. knife to a gunfight

    knife to a gunfight KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 17, 2007
    http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM-MV-BenchMills.html

    these guys offer the same mill as the grizzly, but as I understand, they do a nice "fluff and buff" to make sure the machine ready to be put to work and is within usable tolerances. Worth the extra couple hundred bucks or so IMO.

    Besides that, I've heard at least one or two horror stories from Grizzly customers when it comes to service, or even just getting something as simple as an accurate shipping time. I'm not sure where their at on that particular mill right now (it also may vary based on your location/proximity to a store that already has one in stock), but I've heard of guys waiting upwards of a year or so to get one of those mills from grizzly.

    Precision Matthews OTOH has service second to none from several reviews I've read...

    Just my $.02.... take it for what it's worth. When I save enough, I'm going with Precision Matthews.
     
  13. raylaconico

    raylaconico

    Jan 30, 2004
    I have the littlemachineshop mill and it works well for the price. I ordered mine on a Thursday and had it Monday morning. Keep in mind that you'll need accessories, cutters, etc. so prepare to spend some money.
     
  14. Dan Pierson

    Dan Pierson KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 24, 2003
    Ray is absolutely correct. I'd heard that you should expect to spend about the price
    of the mill on tooling and accessories. Didn't believe. I was wrong.
     
  15. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
    Ray, when is the workshop in Visalia happening?
     
  16. raylaconico

    raylaconico

    Jan 30, 2004
  17. OTK

    OTK

    389
    Feb 10, 2010
    I've got the PM20 and it's a very accurate and sturdy small machine. Machinetoolonline is a good outfit also.
     
  18. Lycosa

    Lycosa

    Aug 24, 2007
    cool.
    Then will come balisong #8B.
     
  19. Mr. Night

    Mr. Night

    Mar 17, 2009
    ordered the little machine shop mill last week, supposed to get delivered tomorrow, with an R8 tooling package. gotta say I'm pretty excited about it.
     
  20. jwblack911

    jwblack911

    710
    Dec 15, 2011
    I do not own a milling machine but i use a bridgeport milling machine on a regular basis. The reason I see no need for a tilting head for milling blades:

    - for one once e head it tilted it talks a skilled hand over 2 hours to get the axis perfectly vertical in retrospect to the milling table
    - if you needed a machine with a tilting head you can simply mill an angled brace out of aluminum stock to the desired angle. I would take an untrained operator about 15-25 minutes. And one you have it cut you can re use it in the future

    So to me if I was going to at home blade work a non tilting head would be the way I go. A for the people who say a tilting head is "less stable" I would like to see evidence of this. I have never found (when using the machine properly). A tilting head makes e machine less stable or accurate. Both tilting and non tilting headed milling machine should be giving you a tolerance or between .oooo5" and .ooo1" depending on e dial accuracy and the machine brand/type.

    Hope this helped

    Zach
     

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