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KME Sharpener

Discussion in 'Maintenance, Tinkering & Embellishment' started by nickE10mm, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. nickE10mm

    nickE10mm

    113
    Mar 17, 2006
    Anyone heard of this setup? Better yet, anyone have a review posted? I'm really interested in this system since I have an irregular bladed S30V knife thats REALLY hard to reprofile, especially with only a Spyderco Sharpmaker. This KME setup looks like I could really grind away a good back bevel and profile a lot thinner edge that I have been. I tried searching the forum but came up empty. SOrry if there has already been a thread on it.

    http://www.kmesharp.com/

    Let me know!
     
  2. Cougar Allen

    Cougar Allen Buccaneer (ret.) Platinum Member

    Oct 9, 1998
    Let’s see if we can find the right forum …
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  3. Native Justice

    Native Justice

    549
    Oct 23, 2005
    There have been a few posts on the KME in the past that were positive, no real reviews that I can recall though. You might want to take a look at the DMT Magna Guide, which I use, which serves the same purpose but looks quite a bit simpler and possibly more effective. I've done alot of edge grind angle reductions with it and it's quite a good product with tremendous versatility. Might want to give it a look see before spending your dime on a relatively unknown product.

    http://www.dmtsharp.com/press/dmgef.htm

    NJ
     
  4. Peregrin

    Peregrin Moderator Moderator

    Sep 2, 2004
    I've got a KME and have been real happy with it. It's a well thought out, well made device that is a pleasure to use. The angle is infinitely selectable between 17 and 30 degrees. I bought the diamond kit that uses the DMT stones, a plus in my estimation.

    They didn't have the base available when I purchased mine. I see that they have one now. I will definitely buy the base. After using the sharpener for awhile it gets uncomfortable hanging onto it with no additional support.

    As with any guided rod type system it works best on shorter blades, but that's what I use it on and it does a great job.

    The video they have on their website explains how to use it fairly well.
     
  5. nickE10mm

    nickE10mm

    113
    Mar 17, 2006
    Thanks.... I have an S30V blade that is a BEAR to reprofile. I'm assuming this setup would allow not only a razor edge sharpening but also would be fairly easy to reprofile even a harder steeled blade?

    What do you think? Reprofiling my S30V mini-skirmish is impossible on a Sharpmaker!
     
  6. Peregrin

    Peregrin Moderator Moderator

    Sep 2, 2004
    The DMT diamond stones make short work of the harder steels. I've reground a few S30V blades and it was fairly quick.
     
  7. Shaman

    Shaman

    402
    Nov 14, 2004
    They now have their longer video broken in two pieces, one for the knife sharpener and one for the broadhead sharpener.

    If you have an older windows version and do not have windows media 11, you can also see the videos here: Click here for videos

    /disclaimer: not associated to KME
    //did order the stones knife sharpener today.
    ///will provide feedback once I get it and work it on some knives.
     
  8. Mocaw

    Mocaw

    16
    Mar 19, 2008
    Looking forward to your opinion of the product. Looks very interesting.
     
  9. Hard H2O

    Hard H2O

    Aug 10, 2007
    Looks like I will be trying the KME out. I will post a review after some testing.

    I have a 10" Chicago Cutlery that I am working on bringing down to a nice shallow angle with the GATCO. I will have to see how the KME compares.
     
  10. Zeasor

    Zeasor

    386
    May 29, 2007
    Looking forward to your review.
     
  11. Mocaw

    Mocaw

    16
    Mar 19, 2008
    I have a 10" Chef wide that I was interested in trying on the KME. Looking forward to your review.
    I emailed KME about the limitations on blade sizes. Ron said it can handle the 10" blade. It's limitation is in spine width, nothing more than .25" (1/4"). The chef knife I have isn't even close
     
  12. Hard H2O

    Hard H2O

    Aug 10, 2007
    My GATCO can handle the 10" chef I have. It is just taking a bit of work to get it down to the angle I want.

    I am interested to compare the marketing points on the website for the KME versus my own use.

    My initial assumptions are that there will be advantages and disadvantages. I am assuming that I will be able to sharpen as well as I can on the GATCO.

    I am unsure if I will be getting the diamond stones or the standard stones.

    I am also curious as to the advantages to having a single stone holder that clamps a stone rather than a stone glued to a holder with a rod for every holder. I have a couple of badly dished stones (extra coarse and coarse) from the GATCO. I am going to have to order new ones. They come with the holder and rod. No need to change the stones out of any holders.
     
  13. Mocaw

    Mocaw

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    Mar 19, 2008
     
  14. Mocaw

    Mocaw

    16
    Mar 19, 2008
    I bought a DMT 4 x 10 F/XF with holder. Thought I could do my kitchen knives freehand. I think I am just messing them up. Can't seem to get them sharp. That is why I was thinking of trying the KME.
     
  15. Hard H2O

    Hard H2O

    Aug 10, 2007
    My kitchen cutlery is fairly pedestrian. My favorite is a 8" (I think) white handled Santuko that I bought at Sam's Club. I have the same in a boner, fillet, and 4 parers.

    I took the Santuko down to 15° with the GATCO. It slices like a lazer. Tomatos quake in fear when I slip the Santuko out of the block.

    I know the GATCO works. The KME and the Lansky are very similar. I amsure any of them will work for you.

    I am curious if I can get stones for the KME similar to the extra fine and ultimate finishing ones that I got from GATCO. They really refine and polish the edge before going to the strop.
     
  16. Hard H2O

    Hard H2O

    Aug 10, 2007
    One thing about sharpening with a guided system is that you learn about the mechanics of sharpening and if you think about the stone and the steel while you are working it might lead to better skills at freehanding.

    The difference between freehanding and rod guided is that you are replacing the hands, wrists and elbows with mechanical clamps, rods, guides. You gain precision.

    After awhile you see that precision is a tad overated when it comes to knife edge bevels. As long as they meet it is all a matter of how much you refine your edge bevels and how you remove the burr.
     
  17. Mocaw

    Mocaw

    16
    Mar 19, 2008
    Getting the burr is what I think I am having trouble with. Also my bevels are not equal from side to side. That is why I was thinking of trying the guided system.
     
  18. Hard H2O

    Hard H2O

    Aug 10, 2007

    With the guided system I use my bevels are very even side to side and choil to tip.

    I do not think a large burr is needed if at all. All you need to do is make the two sides meet.If you are generating a large burr that to me is a sign that you are removing too much material and shortening blade life.
     
  19. nickE10mm

    nickE10mm

    113
    Mar 17, 2006
    Thanks for the replies...

    Ideally I'd like to get a system that will allow me to both re-profile and maintain razor edges in an easy to carry and setup system for all types of blades...thats why I love my SM kit I thought about just getting some 204D diamond rods for my Sharpmaker and calling it a day. Anyone have any experience with these diamond rods from Spyderco for re-profiling S30V?

    Another issue I have is that I would like to also have some normal Arkansas whetstones but since my Mini-Skirmish has a recurve blade, I can't very well use normal sharpening systems (can I?).

    Thanks again ...
     
  20. Hard H2O

    Hard H2O

    Aug 10, 2007
    I got the KME today. Thanks Ron.

    It looks nicer than the pics on the site.

    I hope to try it this weekend.

    The stones sent with the kit include an extra coarse silicon carbide, coarse aluminum oxide, medium aluminum oxide, hard Arkansas, plus coarse, fine, and extra fine diasharp hones.

    So I have seven stones to play with.
     

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