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Question about Refinishing a CRK One Piece, South Africa made .....

Discussion in 'Chris Reeve Knives' started by yannouille, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. yannouille

    yannouille

    2
    Aug 21, 2012
    Hello everybody,

    I am the proud owner of an old Chris Reeve Aviator model from South Africa.
    I have bought this knife used, without identification card and box, and actually it shows some noticeable wear/scratches on the handle and cap.

    I've been told the new refinishing from CRK is more grey than the old SA finish which was darker/black. Is it true ?
    Do you think refinishing an SA made Aviator will decrease the knife value because of the clearer color? Maybe I should keep it in its original condition .....what guys do u think ?

    The identification card has been lost over the year, is it possible to get a new one ?
    Actually do you think a CRK without box and papers would not be collectible ?

    Thank you for the info.
     
  2. jwolf90

    jwolf90

    Oct 17, 2011
    I would say don't do it if its a SA made, use it with pride:thumbup:
     
  3. RiverRat84

    RiverRat84

    Sep 21, 2011
    I agree, that's very cool :thumbup:
     
  4. archieblue

    archieblue Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 19, 2001
    Pics or it diddnt happen!
     
  5. james g

    james g Gold Member Gold Member

    37
    Dec 2, 2005
    I have 4 of the SA one piece knives that I purchased directly from Chris and Anne. They were completely refinished by Chris and with all of the original paperwork as well as a signed statement from Chris that he did the refinish work. They are all numbered 3. I consider these to be collectible,however,after viewing this forum,I now have some doubts. These were purchased, post apartheid. Any feedback would be appreciated.

    Jim
     
  6. 김원진

    김원진

    May 4, 2011
    as none paying members i believe asking about price/value is a no no. Like the others have said though, use it with pride. It's something you can pass down, and something not many have.
     
  7. yannouille

    yannouille

    2
    Aug 21, 2012
    Thank you for your replies, I am going to keep it and use it in its original condition. I received an email form crk today and the new finish is different than the old SA finish ...Here is my knife :
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    Sorry for the poor quality picture but I live in France and I haven't received the knife from the US yet, the pic is from the previous owner.

    I've done some research on the internet and I found some interesting info about this SA made n°862 :
    This particular model was on sale on another forum 4 years ago and the previous owner got knife's history frome Anne Reeve :

    Through Internet I also found a photo of the knife's original papers but unfortunately the original guarantee card has been lost over the years .... CRK can reissue a card with an approximate date of manufacturer. The card will state that it is a reissued card. Once again Great Service from CRK :thumbup:
    Nevertheless, if the previous owner read this thread and still have the card please send me an email ;)
     
  8. Steven65

    Steven65 Traditional Hog Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2008
    If you purchased them directly from Chris and Anne why would you doubt their provenance? I assure you that they would be genuine.

    In the early days Chris has a number of collectors who automatically took all of a certain serial number of of knives. Yours probably came from a collector who only collected number 3's. Personally I have never seen any One Piece knives with duplicate numbers, and I have seen a lot of them.

    South Africa has been "Post Apartheid" since '94 but there is no reason to think that your knives are not the real thing.

    If you post pics and tell us exactly which models they are we could help you date them. There were subtle changes to the various patterns over the years and if yours are well known patterns with such low numbers they should be easy to verify.
     
  9. Dane.Chichester

    Dane.Chichester

    351
    Mar 9, 2012
    I am not sure he doubts the authenticity of the knives, but rather the collectability of them. I believe the OP thought the knives to be worth more than he has recently seen. I could be wrong though.
     
  10. Haze

    Haze

    Aug 2, 2004
    I don't know why you have any questions, the knives and literature you have with them tells you everything you could ever want to know. :confused:
    SA one piece knives are valued/sort after more by collectors than the US made knives regardless of when they were made or if they are numbered.

    As to the OP, you made the right choice. Use that knife and enjoy it just how it was supposed to be. :thumbup:

     
  11. james g

    james g Gold Member Gold Member

    37
    Dec 2, 2005
    Hello Steven

    I wasn't questioning their authenticity, I was just curious about their values. Steven, I have a question about those two Wilkinsons (from the late eighties, one blk and one chrome) I'll PM you tomorrow

    Jim Piretti
     
  12. Haze

    Haze

    Aug 2, 2004
    Please update you user group or you are breaking the fourm rules. You seem to have membership but have not changed your status.

    Non paying members can not ask about price and certainly can't jump about behind the scenes talking prices and potential sales.

     
  13. Steven65

    Steven65 Traditional Hog Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2008
    Jim it is good to hear from you and see you on Bladeforums. I now understand your question about that set of number three's.
    It is also good to know that you still have the two FS's that I sold you so long ago.

    As Haze has said you need to upgrade your membership status. If you are having trouble figuring out how to do it shoot me a e-mail and I will help you.

    Hi Haze

    I have known Jim for over 25 years and he has a wonderful collection of CRK knives and has known Chris and Anne just as long.
    I assure you that our PM conversations are about old times, not sales. My guess is that he is having some trouble changing his membership status as he was an adult long before the microchip was invented and he is probably a little overwhelmed by the forum software. :eek:

    I will try and help him to change it.............

    Cheers.......Steven
     
  14. Haze

    Haze

    Aug 2, 2004
    I'm not trying to say anything underhanded is going on, it's just that is why those rules are in place. I'm not sure if you still get dinged for that or not ? Better to be safe than sorry I suppose. :):thumbup:

    The having to activate your membership from your profile has confused many people here for a long time as you probably well know.

     
  15. Steven65

    Steven65 Traditional Hog Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2008
    You are absolutely correct to point it out..........I will try and help him get squared away........:) Cheers mate.
     
  16. james g

    james g Gold Member Gold Member

    37
    Dec 2, 2005
    You missed the point of my question. Nothing in my statement pertains to authenticity. I was curious about value only.
     
  17. Haze

    Haze

    Aug 2, 2004
    And you missed the point of my answer, obviously. You're also still a nonpaying memebr so you can't ask that question any way. Update your user group from your profile or you will start to get infractions. :)

     
  18. Kiah

    Kiah S&S Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 20, 2006
    James, you can click here to fix the user group issue. Just click the circle next to your subscription and click "Update ..."
     
  19. james g

    james g Gold Member Gold Member

    37
    Dec 2, 2005
    Kiah and RevDevil
    Thank you both for your help and posting a direct link that made the upgrade very simple.
    In the next couple of months I'll post my CRK collection. It's not quite as numerous and unique as St James' collection, but close.

    Jim
     
  20. 김원진

    김원진

    May 4, 2011
    looking forward to the pictures:thumbup:

     

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