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Spanish flea market finds.

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by I'mSoSharp, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. I'mSoSharp

    I'mSoSharp

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    Mar 8, 2011
    Another interesting shaped head I thought you might like to see, nice deep stamp "Juan Lopez, Guadalcazar" which isn't too far away from me in southern Spain.

    2lb 9oz (1.16kg)
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    J + Z missing I assume.
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    Not sure about the handle this would have had.
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    Pictured with another smaller hatchet head of similar style 1lb1oz (0.5kg).
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    Thought I might put all my finds here in one thread to keep things neat.

    Previous find threads-
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1415974-Old-small-hatchet-heads
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1401809-Walters-hatchet(s)-Updated-post-7
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1424530-Large-French-axe
     
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2016
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  2. markv

    markv

    Sep 8, 2004
    these heads look really nice to me, but here in the states i've never handle one inperson.
     
  3. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    Interesting pattern. Paint and all, but I really dig the lines on the small one!
     
  4. I'mSoSharp

    I'mSoSharp

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    Mar 8, 2011
    I'm a Brit so growing up in England I became familiar with the same kind of axes as you & those are about here too, never saw this type so these are the one's I usually pick up simply because they are different to what I'm used to. Most of these have tapered eyes with slip through (?) handles something I never saw in the UK.

    I agree the small one's cool, both are the first I've found in these exact shapes.
     
  5. I'mSoSharp

    I'mSoSharp

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    Mar 8, 2011
    Made a handle for the larger one.

    This-
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    To this- (400g "Lista" hatchet for thinning down)
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    To this- (After using a draw knife & sand paper)
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    It's pretty skinny as it's a slip through handle but feels good, left it long enough to adjust if necessary. This is a guess as to what the handle should be like, I think the kink in the haft/angle of the eye in the head keeps it tight with every blow.
     
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  6. Able_walker

    Able_walker

    145
    Jul 16, 2015
    Nice work!
     
  7. I'mSoSharp

    I'mSoSharp

    204
    Mar 8, 2011
    Thank you, glad you like it. :)
     
  8. Jlemay18

    Jlemay18

    176
    Oct 16, 2016
    I see you're keeping with the Spanish style of the slip through axe handle/head. Very nice!
     
  9. 300Six

    300Six

    Aug 29, 2013
    Your end product is 'Shaker-style' exquisite! Your intuition about ergonomics, balance and blade contact when swinging, and using to full advantage the natural curves of a specifically selected piece of wood has yielded something I am envious of. Beautifully done!
    Shakers, by the way were a quaint USA religious group from 150-200 years ago. Shaker-made furniture, to this day, is revered for it's 'pleasing to the eye' simplicity.
     
  10. Agent_H

    Agent_H Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 21, 2013

    300six said it pretty well, that axe you set up really is a pleasing looking tool.
     
  11. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Perfect lines on that handle. Looks like the main length is pointing straight towards the center of gravity, or very close to it, and the angle of the hang is spot on. Not to say that that's what it is, but the head resembles Russian axes that I've seen labeled as butcher's axes.
     
  12. I'mSoSharp

    I'mSoSharp

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    Mar 8, 2011
    On this one yes, sometimes like the large French head I'll make a "normal" handle for a slip through head, just a bit trickier to do. And thanks.

    Wow, what nice praise I'm flattered! Thank you.
    The Shakers were a quaint English religious group first ;) as was the Quakers. All started near where I was born & brought up in the north of England. I see exactly what you mean with the functional simplicity idea, that theme does appeal when making something.

    Thank you.

    Thanks, it does have a bit of weight below the handle when held horizontal, but I get where you're coming from.
     
  13. 300Six

    300Six

    Aug 29, 2013
    He's got a good point there. Unless steam bending of handles is/was commonplace for these types of heads it's difficult to imagine factory workers creating similarly-upturned handles. Having a blade angled toward you ought to make butchering of livestock easier during pull strokes. But I have to admit to having no experience in this.

    If this manufacturer is still in existence you might want to contact them for an opinion.
     
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  14. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Here's an example of a Russian butcher's axe.

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  15. I'mSoSharp

    I'mSoSharp

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    Mar 8, 2011
    They share pretty wide bits, but the Russian axes have normal eyes with wedged handles. Funnily I turned up this image using "Russian butcher's axe" as a search-

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    Note how this has the small protrusion under the handle as well, can anyone tell me what it's for?
    I know it's no good for overstrike on either axe as the edge comes back further than it.
    Also the there is a gap between it & the handle, it'clearly not meant to fit against the bottom of the handle.
    Only thing I can think of is something to hang it on a nail or peg by, anyone know?
     
  16. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Oh I wasn't suggesting that that was what it actually was. It may or may not be a butcher's axe, but it's definitely not a Russian one. I was just posting the image as an example of what I was referencing. As far as the spur on the underside, I have no idea what it's for. I've seen them on Russian and Eastern European axes and on Spanish and Portuguese axes, but never managed to find out if there was a functional reason for the feature.
     
  17. I'mSoSharp

    I'mSoSharp

    204
    Mar 8, 2011
    Yeah FortyTwoBlades I can see why you'd think of that pattern.

    As silly as it seems, the axe does hang on a nail better than it would without that protrusion, it could be as simple as that!

    :rolleyes:
     
  18. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Would keep ya' from getting a ding in the wood there over time, too. :D
     
  19. Agent_H

    Agent_H Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 21, 2013
    That looks like a Russian carpenter’s/general purpose ТОПОР axe to me:

    Member IPT posted this video of a similar style being made:
    http://forum.novarata.net/viewtopic.php?p=19125

    More an upswept edge comes to mind for a dedicated butcher’s axe

    Something along the lines of this Finnish maker for example (Billnäs):
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    A couple of examples of what I think of you posted there:
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    What is the spur for? My guess is that the spur was longer down the front of the handle and there was also a second an elongation down the handle at the poll as well in the past.
    Here a guy Turbo who describes it as “protection for the bottom of the axe”
    http://rusknife.com/topic/9186-топоры-разные/page-27

    Jake Pogg might have some input. Here is something that this thread reminded me of:
    I bet those types of axes have been used to butcher animals/cut meat and probably still are.

    You can also hang it on a nail :)
     
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  20. Lieblad

    Lieblad

    Jul 24, 2015
    Neat video !
    Obviously they are not interested in making money there manufacturing axes !
     

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