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Substitute for Ivory

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Franco32, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. Franco32

    Franco32

    122
    Dec 11, 2007
    Ok guys..and gals...(pc) I've got a couple projects going that I plan on using some of the blackest ebony I've ever found. Now I would like to find a good substitute for Ivory. Has anyone used corian as a replacement? And I'm not too crazy about Tague, if I can even use it...Suggestions?
    Thanks...Franco
     
  2. SDS

    SDS

    Oct 22, 2007
    My personal opinion is that if you have a nice piece of wood get a good piece of alternative ivory to go with it. Corian is a good utilitarian material but lacks character. To me it just looks like plastic.

    I don't have experience working with different alternative ivories but if you don't find one of those you like you could use paper micarta. I think it looks better than the corian.

    Just my opinion.

    SDS
     
  3. John L

    John L Gold Member Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Gold Member

    Oct 28, 2004
    Elforyn. You can get .200 slabs from cue components. I just received a few and they look good but have not machined them or finished them yet.
     
  4. Franco32

    Franco32

    122
    Dec 11, 2007
    Thanks John...I just looked up Blatts Billards in NYC and they sell it also. There is also a website for Elforyn and Elforyn.com. Looks promising..89% of the charactoristics of real ivory. They say it will polish up just like ivory...I think I will give it a try...Thanks Guys
     
  5. Evan Martin

    Evan Martin

    521
    Aug 6, 2007
    me i like everything natural so tagua nuts are the way to go for me its very hards and deffinantly has character but will burn
     
  6. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    The synthetic ivory from the knife supply companies is very nice. Polishes like a dream. really looks like ivory,too.
    Stacy
     
  7. fitzo

    fitzo

    Aug 14, 2001
  8. steelshaper

    steelshaper

    835
    Jun 14, 2007
    Could anyone post some pics or post links to knives with some of these materials? I have seen Phillip Patton's corian handled knife. The nice thing about corian is its cheap and there is lots of it. I use alot of bone but it does present lots of problems. What I am looking for is something at least 3/4 thick that can be carved. I would like to get big pieces for some stacked handles. Maybe even a whole stick tang handle out of one piece. Most of this type stuff is to thin for that.
    Thanks
     
  9. Del Raso Knives

    Del Raso Knives

    653
    Dec 24, 2005
    If you don't want to use ivory, maybe mother of pearl. I know its a little off theme but I would rather go all natural if your timber is that good.

    peter
     
  10. Deweyknives

    Deweyknives

    Nov 29, 2006
    Once you remove all the texture from antler and polish it,you get some very nice affects.Being a natural material,every piece is unique.
     
  11. Franco32

    Franco32

    122
    Dec 11, 2007
    Thanks Guys, seems we're getting some good information here. I've heard of Tagua Nut but I couldn't find any sources when I was looking. I know they make corian in an ivory color but then I drift away from natural materials...plenty food for thought...Thanks Franco
     
  12. pso

    pso

    494
    Oct 29, 1998
  13. David Wesner

    David Wesner

    Jan 5, 2005
    I've been wondering about this product too. Anyone have any feedback they would like to share ? It looks more like the real thing than any faux product I've seen yet. One think I love about real Ivory is the way it ages. The tru ivory seems to replicate the look perfectly.
     
  14. Hengelo_77

    Hengelo_77 Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 2, 2006
  15. David Wesner

    David Wesner

    Jan 5, 2005
    FWIW, I contacted Tru-Ivory and inquired about knifemaker size pieces that are available and cost thereof. They responded really quick and said there are three standard sizes - .25 x 1.5 x 5, .375 x 1.5 x 5 and .5 x 1.5 x 5. They are $37.50, $56.26 and $75 respectively, for a pair of knife scales. Custom sizes are available too. Not too bad cost wise. I've wondered long enough about this stuff and think I'll give it a try. I'll post results when I've had the opportunity to work with it.

    In regards to the moose crown I'll bet that would look great. I've worked with some really dense antler in the past for beads and little trinkets. As long as I stayed away from the soft center (pith?) it buffed up really nice and with the exception of the grain looked quite similar to ivory. Well..... it was ivory white anyway ;) , hard and shiny too :)
     
  16. Franco32

    Franco32

    122
    Dec 11, 2007
    Thanks David...that stuff sounds pretty interesting also. Looks like I have more options that I expected. I wonder if Tru-Ivory is simular to Elfryn. Oh well, now I have to make up my mind on which to try first! Franco
     
  17. fitzo

    fitzo

    Aug 14, 2001
    David, that's good info. Thanks for calling them! From what I read, they're available in several shades, too. I may well give it a try, too.

    Anyone have any idea if we can buy those moose crowns from Brisa without some kind of DNR stink here in the US?
     
  18. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    A lot of the wood carving suppliers sell them (they make great belt buckles, and relief carvings). Also check out the Native American craft suppliers. Ebay is usually full of them,too.There is no problem with moose antler products that I know of in the USA.
    Stacy

    Mike, I've got a couple in the cabinet left over from some past projects. I may have some on the antler stock in the shop,too. If you need one or two, let me know.
    Stacy
     
  19. fitzo

    fitzo

    Aug 14, 2001

    Thanks for the very kind offer, Stacy! If I get to where I can use it, I will let you know and see if the offer still stands. I'd hate to take one and let it lanquish. I appreciate your kindness. :thumbup:
     

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