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Thoughts on Queen City Cutlery?

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by BigBill5953, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. BigBill5953

    BigBill5953

    810
    Mar 5, 2012
    So how to you guys like Queen City Cutlery? I've looked on the traditional forum for info on Queen City but I haven't found a whole lot.

    The specific model I'm looking at is the #31 2 Blade Congress with the Sheepsfoot main. Do any of you guys have this model? If so, how do you like it? Thanks for any info.
     
  2. Peter Parker

    Peter Parker

    Aug 18, 2008
    I have quite a few of them mostly under the shatt & Morgan name. I hold all of my current Queens in the same high esteeme as my Case and GEC knives! I haven't purchase one in about 2 years and I've heard their QC has gone down some so I can't really comment on that. The new Heritage series under S&M look real nice to my eyes!
     
  3. Whitedog

    Whitedog

    759
    Dec 30, 2005
    I have one Queen City Copperhead that I purchased from Collectors net. Great fit and finish, good snap. Blades centered.Dull as a buter knife when I got it but I took care of that and it is a great little knife. I you can you need to feel them up before purchase. Check collectors net. Good guy to deal with.
     
  4. markpmc

    markpmc

    Aug 10, 2011
    I have two S&M's. A Reverse Gunstock stockman and a wharni muskrat. Both are solid knives.
     
  5. black mamba

    black mamba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 21, 2009
    Queen City Cutlery knives have frequently had some QC problems in my experience. The S&M File & Wire series I, II and III were terrific knives, among the best ever from a factory cutlery. The Schatt & Morgan series IX knives had the same ATS-34 premium stainless that the F&W series had, plus beautiful wormgroove bone. The more recent Queen amber carved stag bone (ACSB) and curly zebrawood handled knives are beautifully made, but frequently have dull and obtuse blades. If you have diamond stones, they can be sharpened to beautiful levels-- the D2 steel is the best available in factory traditional knives.
     
  6. BigBill5953

    BigBill5953

    810
    Mar 5, 2012
    Thanks for the input guys. Going to pull the trigger on this one in a week or two when some funds get freed up.

    @Peter Parker- that heritage series is definitely eye-catching.
     
  7. knarfeng

    knarfeng senex morosus moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Jul 30, 2006
    Queen Cutlery has three main brands:
    Queen,
    Queen City
    Schatt and Morgan.

    I have a number of Queens in D2.
    One Schatt and Morgan Heritage Series in 1095
    One Queen City in 1095.

    The Queen City was a special order by a dealer. I wasn't as happy with the fit and finish on it as I was with the other knives. Only one sample, so YMMV.
     
  8. Will Power

    Will Power

    Jan 18, 2007
    Got two QCCC knives both Teardrops (a favourite of mine) I was sent an English Jack in this series by a dealer in error. He tried to knock off some money so that I'd keep it. The knife had major blade play and totally un-centred blades and it wasn't what I ordered so back it went at my expense. When I got the Teardrop I actually paid for, this too has 'issues' chip in jigging around badly inlet shield, blade play, some gaps and bone not radiused around the liners properly.

    HOWEVER it was to be used and being fed up with the sending back (which took ages..) I stuck with it. It sharpens beautifully, has excellent W&T, the bone has smoothed out now with use so that the chip around the jigging is less obvious. A big knife that uses well and looks very good, I particularly like the nickel liners rather than brass. Interestingly enough, this like the returned English Jack, came in Green Bone, although the former had much better jigging and finish than the Teardrop's scales. I would not like to lose this knife as it is a fine working-knife, despite the uneccessary flaws. Due to this reason, I bought another as reserve backup. Another Teardrop came up from a different dealer, this one in a red/brown Winterbottom jigged bone (they were also issued in Sambar and Ebony). The two knives are very different in fit and finish. The Winterbottom is basically faultless as far as I'm concerned: no gaps, no blade play at all. Bone scales match and are properly fitted and radiused, same excellent W&T a really decent knife that would make you want to get more of this series, if..... I could find more Teardops in that Green Bone of tis standard I'd snap up the lot..:thumbup:So, they appear to vary in quality. Moral: All Queens are equal, some are more equal than others!:D

    Regards, Will
     
  9. neeman

    neeman Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Queen #31 in D2 2 Blade Congress with the Sheepsfoot main.

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    As Franks says, there are three main brands of Queen

    Queen City vary from very inexpensive $35 carbon with wood or delrin, to very high quality bone $100 knives
    As Will says, All Queens are equal, some are more equal than others!

    I got 4 Queen City for $100 in wood and delrin, all needed sharpening
    3 are superb and the 4th has soft springs
    The carbon is awesome and sharpens very well


    A Queen City Gunstock in delrin and carbon is $35 and the same Queen in Amber Bone and D2 is $50

    I have some older high end Queen City , and the quality uis out of the ball park

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  10. Mossyhorn

    Mossyhorn Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    I had a WWII Queen City combat knife that I sold to a forum member. It was of excellent quality. Quite a bit about Queen City Cutlery can be learned in the book, " American Guide to Razors and Knives, Identification and Value Guide 7th Edition" by Jim Sargent.They used 27 different tang stamps from 1890 to present. The first three used were Schatt and Morgan stamps. The #31 is described as a large congress with winter bottom bone and having the QUEEN STEEL stamp and no etching. The QUEEN STEEL
    tang stamp was used between 1949-1958. This information is for vintage knives.
     
  11. BigBill5953

    BigBill5953

    810
    Mar 5, 2012
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    Is this a current production model?
     
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2012
  12. neeman

    neeman Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    no

    But in threory the Birds Eye Maple is in production
     
  13. Maniacal Pete

    Maniacal Pete

    Oct 16, 2010
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