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TOPS Micro Hawk

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by mc5aw, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. mc5aw

    mc5aw

    186
    Nov 6, 2011
    Was curious if any members have this model yet and can offer some hands-on commentary. Very small, very light, very concealable ... more like a multi-edged knife than a full blown tomahawk. Average retail price is ~ $125 ... looks intriguing as a H2H weapon. The product video I saw showed some decent chopping capabilities for what it is.

    I found several 100% feedback dealers online with very tempting lower prices, but I'm concerned about rampant forgeries/fakes.
     
  2. phantomknives

    phantomknives

    495
    Mar 31, 2016
    holy **** 125? for a "micro hawk"? i wouldnt pay that for a full size axe let alone a hawk. i'v never heard about fake hawks because, well, the fake axes are much more popular and expensive. i dont know. i wouldnt pay 125 for an axe shaped knife the size of a pocket knife
     
  3. abcdef

    abcdef

    Oct 28, 2005
    If you think of it as a pocket tool, then the pricing makes all kind of sense.
     
  4. mc5aw

    mc5aw

    186
    Nov 6, 2011
    Then you will never experience the quality of RMJ and Winkler, or any other high end manufacturer.

    As far as fake hawks, they are as plentiful proportionately as fake knives ... even reputable dealers are not immune, thus my stated concern.

    Micro hawks have a place in one's kit based on personal requirements and needs. As to price, it is a matter of one's perception re: bang for buck. A new Emerson folder is $200+ ... some think that is outlandish, others consider it par for the course. Different strokes ...
     
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  5. phantomknives

    phantomknives

    495
    Mar 31, 2016
    ok, what ever you want to spend your money on.

    if i spend 125 on something it better be a sager or a black raven. They might be high quality but they cant compare to the old stuff. unlike knives, the good axes are old
     
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  6. mc5aw

    mc5aw

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    Nov 6, 2011
  7. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel

    Feb 11, 2016
    Looks like one of those cheapo axe-ish shaped throwing knives to me and I wouldn't even pay 20$ for it no matter who made it.
     
  8. DeadFall27

    DeadFall27 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 18, 2011
    I would never buy one, I can get a alot of quality steel for that price to my door. That's half the price of the custom axe I'm looking at right now. I'd rather carry a small hatchet than that little knife thing.

    I mean, if someone wants it, by all means get it. I'm all for people getting what they want, variety is the spice of life.
     
  9. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    I am not convinced about its effectivness as a weapon. But we've all probably spent more on things that lay unused in some cellar or basement.

    Other than that, I won't get into comparing apples and oranges :).
     
  10. mc5aw

    mc5aw

    186
    Nov 6, 2011
    That's a very valid point. Is there anything to accurately compare this micro hawk to? The more I think about it, the more more I consider what knives and hawks I have spent $125 on ... it's starting to seem more gadgety than practical.

    As to small hawks (something like a Jenny Wren or mini Wren) I found the Browning Black Label S&A ($65) and the Columbia River Rune ($95) which are much more affordable, and have better functionality than the TOPS Micro.
     
  11. Derzelas

    Derzelas

    230
    Nov 23, 2015
    It's a filipino martial artist who developed it, I think he knows what he was doing.
    The mistake here is thinking about that thing as a tool for bushcraft when it was designed as weapon with some tool capabilities.
     
  12. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel

    Feb 11, 2016
    The real mistake is tops calling it a tomahawk.
     
  13. Derzelas

    Derzelas

    230
    Nov 23, 2015
    I don't see it as mistake though, it has the shape of the tacticool hawk, right? If a tomahawk was defined as an axe-type bit mounted using slip-fit on a wood handle things were clear. But we live in an era where Marketing dictates meanings.
     
  14. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel

    Feb 11, 2016
    Well I've never seen a real tomahawk that looked like this so I wouldn't consider this a tomahawk.
     
  15. nzedge

    nzedge

    248
    Apr 7, 2013
    The thing about all these "small" axes, is that it seems people sometimes forget how an axe actually works..and that is that a large % of its performance comes directly from the weight of its head, and the rest comes from momentum/speed. (handle length). well really its a combination of both to make momentum.
    So I see these "micro hawks" and titanium axes and I cant help but face palm.

    Then the full metal construction ones...man...if they had put all that steel into the head only and had a wooden handle..it would come out with a similar overall weight and 100% better performance.
    im sorry but...."micro hawk"....do NOT approve.
     
  16. Derzelas

    Derzelas

    230
    Nov 23, 2015
    What is "real" in today's marketing vocabulary? Lagana is a "real" tomahawk? Based on REAL from the historical past I will say no. But this starts to look like who's right and is pointless. There is a market for this tool - all the guys imagining they will slash/poke/stab another guy in self defence and want something cool.
     
  17. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    Well, so many "martial artists" out there, it's kind of funny. How many of those have really put their skills to use outside of their dojo?

    This guy may be legit, for all that I know. All I'm saying is that putting this or that tag on someone does not necessarily attribute them relevant experience. I'm just a "grain of salt" kind of guy when it comes to boastful claims.
     
  18. Derzelas

    Derzelas

    230
    Nov 23, 2015
    And what was the claim? You doubted its martial application based on your experience.
    "I doubt a giraffe exists because I never seen one." That's a boastful claim. Or "You can make sushi from your opponent with this tool". Both dead wrong without reading the little writing on the bottom of the page.

    And to end this, I will say that "micro hawk" for me is useless. I don't intend to get in a fight and I hate the ergonomics of a skinny paracord wrapped handle for medium to long term use.
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2017
  19. phantomknives

    phantomknives

    495
    Mar 31, 2016
    i mostly have an issue with it because you can make it with an angle grinder and get it heat treated for less than 125.a 1 foot square of 1/8th inch 1075 is about 30 bucks on the internet. harbor freight angle grinder's 20 with disks and a blow torch is about 29 bucks. after that, just find some bricks. now, you'v saved 46 dollars and have a ton of left over steel to make what ever you want
     
  20. phantomknives

    phantomknives

    495
    Mar 31, 2016
    technically you could say this about most naked tang knives but, you could hide this in you hand, and for 46 dollars less you could have multiple 11-12 inchers in any fashion you want
     

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