Osprey Knife & Tool
Moderator
- Joined
- Jun 4, 2014
- Messages
- 2,469
Reply Part 1-
Thank you Phil, I have received a number of well thought out and lengthy responses which I appreciate along with yours! I have read everyone's responses including yours and have begun to make the necessary adjustments. A Lot of materials enroute, mostly 1/16", 3/32" CPM154 and, lots of micarta and G10s
It seems that most everyone on here uses their knives with a similar purpose and setting, this is good information for me because it gives me an ideas about how to design knives that better fit all of our needs.
In the next few months I plan on focusing on what I am starting to see as my core models, (K) Raptor, Raptor, Warthog, (G) Warthog, Trail Hand, Mamushi, (K) Apache, Apache, Tusk, Edu, and Nomad.
I also plan on refining and releasing several new models and plan to continue to make one offs when the urge and opportunity arises.
I definitely plan on focusing on the thinner steels for CPM154, the newer ones to me will most likely be in the thicker side of until I get more comfortable then I will work my way down to the thinner stocks like I did with the CPM 154
You seem to be right inline with most of these guys on handle choices, I do have a strong preference to the sandblasted handles to, and was something that I am really glad I incorporated into my working line of knives.
I do think the Carbon Fiber still has its place and Niche. I am planning on offering the Carbon Fiber, TSK, and other premium material, just on a more limited basis.
I do have some more Koa stashed, along with Cocobolo and a few other highly figured exotic species.
Ok it's a little bit more of a mix here, personally I am on and off with the bolsters from an aesthetic point of few, but there are certain handle combinations on certain knives where I think it starts to lean more toward functionality as well. Say for instance on a larger knife where balance is important, usually it won't make much of a difference in the balance from one material to the next, but occasionally it does and pairing different density materials can do neat things to a knife's balance and liveliness on special occasions. I better example would be a synthetic bolster/wood combination. but I am aware I am preaching to the choir here and just mentioning my observations from a maker's point of view.
I have not made to many of the bolster combinations you mentioned with the thick liners. I guess now that I think of it mainly because that is what most everyone was doing around me and I wanted to bring something different to the table with the incorporated pinstriping, I know the idea is not unique but the way I incorporate my pinstriping into the bolsters is unique and I have not seen any other makers who make them exactly how I make them.
I like the idea of making some bolstered handles with the thick liners and no pinstriping I will see about making these a more regular occurrence, it will be good for the variety and fresh look for my knives.
Its funny you mention the (K) Apache being you favorite, because It was a F@#K it kind of handle. I was not planning on making that handle much less putting it on that knife, I wanted too and something drove me to do it. I like to think the materials spoke to me in a sense, but I found that a lot of my killer pieces are a product of this spur of the moment imagination and inspiration. And it's really fun when the rational part of you says I dunno but the artistic side say oh yeah we are doing this, wins out and proves the rational/pragmatic side wrong. It is an interesting dichotomy!
Thanks for starting this thread Chris. You have received a number of well thought out responses so far from an experienced group of folks. I agree with most of the consensus opinions so far.
Thank you Phil, I have received a number of well thought out and lengthy responses which I appreciate along with yours! I have read everyone's responses including yours and have begun to make the necessary adjustments. A Lot of materials enroute, mostly 1/16", 3/32" CPM154 and, lots of micarta and G10s
Here are my general answers to your questions followed by some specific comments actual purchases to add to the mix:
Models and thickness?
I like the models that incorporate some food prep / kitchen utility features in addition to outdoor uses. “K” Raptors, “K” Apaches and the Nomad all fit this category for me. I prefer thinner steels these days for most day-to-day uses. The fact that you work in 3/32” CPM 154 and taper the tangs has been a big reason that I am drawn to your knives. The 1/16” CPM 154 on the Nomad has been a very pleasant surprise to me too. I think that these dual utility models with base synthetic handles will be popular sellers for you.
It seems that most everyone on here uses their knives with a similar purpose and setting, this is good information for me because it gives me an ideas about how to design knives that better fit all of our needs.
In the next few months I plan on focusing on what I am starting to see as my core models, (K) Raptor, Raptor, Warthog, (G) Warthog, Trail Hand, Mamushi, (K) Apache, Apache, Tusk, Edu, and Nomad.
I also plan on refining and releasing several new models and plan to continue to make one offs when the urge and opportunity arises.
I definitely plan on focusing on the thinner steels for CPM154, the newer ones to me will most likely be in the thicker side of until I get more comfortable then I will work my way down to the thinner stocks like I did with the CPM 154
What kind of handle material like more micarta or G10, Carbon Fiber, Wood etc.?
My preference runs about 95% to synthetic handles these days. Durability, ease of maintenance, and reasonable cost, are the factors that I appreciate about micarta and G10. Your bead-blasted finish on these materials is excellent for being grippy even when wet. Your finishing on carbon fiber handles is the best I have experienced - smooth and supple feeling rather than polished and slippery.
On the few cases where I go with wood, I am attracted to nicely figured Koa or other browns. I am not into dyed woods at all.
You seem to be right inline with most of these guys on handle choices, I do have a strong preference to the sandblasted handles to, and was something that I am really glad I incorporated into my working line of knives.
I do think the Carbon Fiber still has its place and Niche. I am planning on offering the Carbon Fiber, TSK, and other premium material, just on a more limited basis.
I do have some more Koa stashed, along with Cocobolo and a few other highly figured exotic species.
More Bolsters or Less?
With a few notable exceptions, I prefer no bolsters. Bolsters are one of the options where I feel that up-charge cost is better applied on premium material or other features of the knife.
The bolstered handle configurations I like the best have no pinstripes. I like the clean look of matching synthetic 1/8” liners and bolsters without pinstripes.
My favorite handle combo I have seen you do is this “K” Apache with Koa sandwiched between two Lightning Strike carbon fiber bolsters. Absolutely beautiful! (Not my knife by the way.)
https://public.fotki.com/Ospreyknifeandtool/knives-for-sale-2017/img-0821.html#media
IMG_0821-vi.jpg
Ok it's a little bit more of a mix here, personally I am on and off with the bolsters from an aesthetic point of few, but there are certain handle combinations on certain knives where I think it starts to lean more toward functionality as well. Say for instance on a larger knife where balance is important, usually it won't make much of a difference in the balance from one material to the next, but occasionally it does and pairing different density materials can do neat things to a knife's balance and liveliness on special occasions. I better example would be a synthetic bolster/wood combination. but I am aware I am preaching to the choir here and just mentioning my observations from a maker's point of view.
I have not made to many of the bolster combinations you mentioned with the thick liners. I guess now that I think of it mainly because that is what most everyone was doing around me and I wanted to bring something different to the table with the incorporated pinstriping, I know the idea is not unique but the way I incorporate my pinstriping into the bolsters is unique and I have not seen any other makers who make them exactly how I make them.
I like the idea of making some bolstered handles with the thick liners and no pinstriping I will see about making these a more regular occurrence, it will be good for the variety and fresh look for my knives.
Its funny you mention the (K) Apache being you favorite, because It was a F@#K it kind of handle. I was not planning on making that handle much less putting it on that knife, I wanted too and something drove me to do it. I like to think the materials spoke to me in a sense, but I found that a lot of my killer pieces are a product of this spur of the moment imagination and inspiration. And it's really fun when the rational part of you says I dunno but the artistic side say oh yeah we are doing this, wins out and proves the rational/pragmatic side wrong. It is an interesting dichotomy!
Last edited: