0560 fit issues?

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Zach Gulsby

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I noticed a few things about an 0560 I received today in the mail and I'm interested to know if they're legitimate issues. Serial is 2300 and aside from what I'll point out here, everything is pretty much spot on except for a damn wiggly clip.

The first thing is the grind of the swedge. On the ZT marked side, the swedge ends exactly a quarter inch before the thumb ramp. On the opposing side, the swedge is a sixteenth longer. I marked the ends of both swedges on the spine of the blade and you can see what I'm talking about in images below. I noticed it almost immediately once I started fondling the knife after opening the box.

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The second thing is the blade stop, where the thumbstuds contact the frame. The discrepancy is on the G10 side of the knife. The G10 doesn't follow the profile of the liner, and is recessed a few millimeters. The scale is flush with the edge of the liner in all other places (other than the side opposing the lockbar jimping, but this was intentional by ZT due to a design change). You can see what I'm talking about in the following picture:

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I know that some of you will consider this picking nits, but I don't see how these issues couldn't affect value, and moreover, they bother the hell out of me on a knife of this caliber. I have other knives that cost half as much, and might not be as smooth, but have better F&F than this 0560.
 
I have a question:
How does the issue with the scale affect value? It's not a LE or anything, it's a standard production item now. Contact customer service, fill out the paperwork, send the knife in.
 
My 0560 scale is the same way. Im wondering if they just do it that way so the stud hits the liner and not the scale. Doesnt bother me either way
 
RevDevil said:
I have a question:
How does the issue with the scale affect value? It's not a LE or anything, it's a standard production item now. Contact customer service, fill out the paperwork, send the knife in.
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I'm not talking about solely a scale issue. Regardless, I don't see how why it being a production item matters. The scale simply doesn't fit correctly and it doesn't look or feel like it should...I would have brought the issue up had the knife been a Leek.


jimmyjohnjohn said:
I'd give them a call about it. You won't accomplish much with us.
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It's nice to see if other people have knives with similarities, as was shown by nwmetalbug. I wouldn't have guessed that this would occur on multiple knives, and I don't see the problem with bringing attention to it.
 
I dont think these are FF issues as much as they are design/engineering decisions as both my 0560 and 0561 feature this. I dont know why the swedge is ground that way, as for the recessed G10 I would imagine that since the thumbstud contacts that portion of the scale they want it to only contact the metal and not disfigure the G10.
 
Zach Gulsby said:
I'm not talking about solely a scale issue. Regardless, I don't see how why it being a production item matters. The scale simply doesn't fit correctly and it doesn't look or feel like it should...I would have brought the issue up had the knife been a Leek.




It's nice to see if other people have knives with similarities, as was shown by nwmetalbug. I wouldn't have guessed that this would occur on multiple knives, and I don't see the problem with bringing attention to it.
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I understand, but I was asking about your comment on value.
 
I have also noticed the G10 issue on not only my 0561, but in photos and YouTube as well. I was thinking it had to be intentional since mine was not the only one.
 
espnazi said:
I dont think these are FF issues as much as they are design/engineering decisions as both my 0560 and 0561 feature this. I dont know why the swedge is ground that way, as for the recessed G10 I would imagine that since the thumbstud contacts that portion of the scale they want it to only contact the metal and not disfigure the G10.
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I've never seen the G10 thing mentioned before in the 0560 threads but I could understand how this was designed into the knife. I'm still intrigued by the swedge though.
 
One thing I dont like about the fit and finish on mine is the inside edges are sharp . After i break mine in and take it apart to clean and lube it im going to knock down the sharp edges with a stone. Not a big deal just feel it should have been done before being shipped. Love the 0560 and ZT/Kershaw in general. My 0300 is the same way kinda sharp on the interior edges
 
RevDevil said:
I understand, but I was asking about your comment on value.
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For instance, there is another issue with the jimping on the thumb ramp of the blade, a gouge of some sort on the middle "jimp" (you can also kind of see this in the picture above of the G10 side of the knife). The previous owner purchased the knife this way and noticed it after posting it for sale. He subsequently reduced the price by $10 because he didn't want to send it back to ZT before selling. If a knife isn't in the condition it should come in from the factory, it isn't worth as much as one that is. Would you pay full price for a knife that isn't 100% as it should be from the factory? Obviously, the knife could be returned and corrected, but that isn't the point.

Now, I realize that the scale thing is a design feature. However my point still stands in regards to the swedge.
 
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The scale thing is by design. You wouldn't want the thumb studs impacting the G10.
 
I think you may be nit-picking, but I'll admit, the swedge off-set would drive me nuts.
 
all of them have the G10 that way, it was designed that way. The other item would not bother me in the least , in fact I would have never noticed it. Those black marks on the top of the spine would be a deal breaker for me though.
 
kershawguy said:
all of them have the G10 that way, it was designed that way. The other item would not bother me in the least , in fact I would have never noticed it. Those black marks on the top of the spine would be a deal breaker for me though.
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Good thing the pencil wipes off with a finger ;)

And honestly, it's kind of hard not to notice when you're someone that can only afford a new blade a few times a year. I realize that an uneven swedge has no effect on cutting performance, or overall performance...it just hits my OCD button.
 
Zach Gulsby said:
Good thing the pencil wipes off with a finger ;)

...it just hits my OCD button.
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Well at least you admit you have one, LOL. Just send it in Zach, no need wasting any time worrying about it, they will take care of you.
KG

PS. if I had any in stock, I would trade you out of it.
 
kershawguy said:
Well at least you admit you have one, LOL. Just send it in Zach, no need wasting any time worrying about it, they will take care of you.
KG

PS. if I had any in stock, I would trade you out of it.
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I originally posted to see if anyone had the same "issues" as me. Now that I know the G10 is intentional, I might just keep it and consider my swedge to be a unique blade :D
 
If that bothers you, check the edge bevel, I can just about guarantee you it's not centered with the blade. Moreover, it's entirely possible that the primary blade grind is uneven.
I've seen some stuff (any and all brands) that was pretty far out.

These are factory knives, as great as they are, you will not get custom quality out of a factory.
 
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