10 Gauge Fun Gun!!!

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Stiletto Raggio

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I WANT ONE!

I wandered onto a website for a group of shooters. Amid the Ingrams and the Tommy guns, one guy brought a single shot 10 Gauge (which, of course, whooped everyone who dared fire it). I ahve always been a big fan of very powerful weapons,a nd this single shot 10 seems like a bargain as far as big band for low bucks. The question is, what kinds are available and where can I get ammo at a decent price? Also, does anyone know of an aftermarket sight for this type of shotty?
 
The only single shot 10gauge shotguns I know of are the H&R Topper and NEF Pardner models. They're practically the same gun (same company owns both). Dunno about the 10ga, but their 12gauge models start around $80 at Wal-Mart. You may not want one though. A 3" magnum 12ga is painful enough in these light guns, a 10ga might be too much. The guns themselves are made well enough. Patterns aren't great, but they work for small game and upland bird. Ammo for a 10ga is more expensive than for a 12. I know Galyans stocks it, Wal-Mart might also.

Chris
 
A friend of mine has a single-shot 10 gauge with a red dot sight on it. He uses it with 3 1/2" magnum loads for goose and turkey. The recoil doesn't bother him, but he only uses it for hunting and never fires many rounds in a day, and he's a little guy, <90 pounds (little guys have it easier with recoil because it pushes them back, they yield to it -- it's the big strong guys who really get hammered). He also uses it with 3 1/2" slug loads for deer, and that's just plain stoopid IMHO ... but it doesn't bother him. Some people don't mind recoil....

I don't think there's much difference between brands; one single-shot is much like another. If you shoot it enough to make ammunition cost an issue (you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din) reloading shotshells is easy and the equipment to do it doesn't cost much.

You've got to realize that gun only weighs about five pounds and -- how much lead is there in a 3 1/2" magnum load? I forget.... Anyway, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, and the only reason the projectile moves faster than the gun is it weighs less. The less the difference in mass between gun and projectile, the more recoil.

If you happen to have been bit by a radioactive cockroach in your youth and have been immune to recoil ever since, though, you could have fun with a gun like that. How about tricking it up with a folding plastic stock and an optical sight and a laser and an underbarrel flashlight -- that'd scare the heck out of a burglar. One look at that and he wouldn't wait around to find out if it was loaded.... :eek:
 
Exactly, the recoil is the fun. I thoguht aoubt getting a pump, but if you can't kill it with one shot form a 10, you probably ought to quit trying. I saw that a 3.5 inch 10 throws about 2.5 ounces of #4 shot down range... Fun fun fun!!!

I haven't found any listings for slugs yet. If anyone makes a 2 ounce brenneks type slug, that would be about ideal.

I'm just thinking that this would be fun to have around, show the tough guys how bad they aren't... Plus I could actually use it when turkey season comes around.

Just as a point, does the ATF measure barrels form the end of the chamber or the begining?
 
After you finish your experimenting with a 10 gauge, I'd like to read your thoughts on a 505 Gibbs.
 
Borrowed from NFA FAQ:

A short barreled shotgun is any shotgun (which is defined as a shoulder fired, smooth bore firearm) with a barrel of less than 18" or an overall length of less than 26", or any weapon made from a shotgun falling into the same length parameters.

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In measuring barrel length you do it from the
closed breech to the muzzle, see 27 CFR sec. 179.11. To measure overall length do so along, "the distance between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to the center line of the bore." 27 CFR sec. 179.11. On a folding stock weapon you measure with the stock extended, provided the stock is not readily detachable, and the weapon is meant to be fired from the shoulder.
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Directly from 27 CFR sec. 179.11:

For purposes
of this definition, the length of the barrel having an integral chamber(s) on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or breech block when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked. The overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to the center line of the bore.
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So, if you for some reason wanted to cut it below that length, you would have to get the ATF paperwork, and pay the $200 making tax (you would want the form to make a weapon, not the more common transfer form - Form 2 instead of the mnore common Form 4, if I recall correctly).

--JB
 
No, I don't want to turn it into a SBS, but I might want to cut the barrel down to 18 inches if I get interested in slugs :)

Any suggestions on a cheap SxS? Just wondering, since we are dealing with hypotheticals at this point.
 
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