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Doctors' kitchen knives ban call

A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.
A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.


In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

"The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

"An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

Published: 2005/05/26 23:48:35 GMT

© BBC MMV
 
ptgdvc said:
In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

So how are these Brits proposing to "Cut into ripe melons" in the summer?
Fulloflead, your avatar made me cry.
 
At least it's in Britain.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm


A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.
A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.



In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

"The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

"An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."
 
The chefs have gone an stabbed us in the back. Maybe in their regimented kitchens they never need pointed knives, but us poor slobs who have to deal with weird packaging and frozen foods often need our points on heavy knives. The melon stabbing description illustrates one of the ways you want a point, to cut through a wide melon with a knife under 10 inches long. I guess that they never see large cuts of meat in the UK. I have a zillion kitchen knives and I prefer not to get 3 different knives dirty to cut up one set of ribs. I prefer my chefs knife to have a point most of the time.

All that said, I do get a lot of use out of my pointless usubas.
 

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Swimming pools, and those 5 gallon buckets everyone uses to wash their cars with, kill more people every year than guns and knives. Maybe I'll call for a ban on buckets and pools! :rolleyes:
 
Gun control didn't stop violent crime so let's ban pointed objects (such as nails?).

If I lived in Great Britian, I would not feel comfortable with my physician.
 
WOW :barf: I can't believe how retarded things are getting...it's only a matter of time before some tree huggin hippy tries to float that logic over hear.
 
I really don't understand the mentality of some people. They cannot accept the basic human fact that a person who wants to be violent will find a way to be violent. This Memorial Day, I'm sure lots of long pointy knives will be put to good use in the kitchen and the grill. I liked the UK when I visited but I sure as hell would not want to live there the way things have gone.

Thanks A.T. for posting this thread.
 
There are at least 3 threads on this subject in the Knife Laws Forum.
 
Buckets, pools, nails, cars (wow, they kill a bunch of people) :mad: , planes, trains ....huuuuuum, what else?

Not to be ugly, but.....idiots!

Scagle gave his only mini to a 5 year old girl for her birthday back in the good ole days. They would have given him 5 years today. Are we learning or just shrinking from reality of common every day physics.

William12
 
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