Another knife show question

Ferret

Ferret

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Have been wondering for a while now...what's to stop scumbags from doing a runner with knives from yer table? Do knives ever get stolen this way? Do you give chase or stay on the nest?
 
Ferret, I guess it happens now and then. Someone stole a Sebenza at Spirit of Steel last week and apparently got away with it. Last year someone took a knife and they caught him. I figure that someone has to be on drugs or be pretty stupid to steal a knife at a knifeshow or a gun at a gunshow. Getting caught by the vendors could be hazardous to one's health. lol
 
Get locking display cases. I know a dealer who lost a $2,000 knife at the last Blade Show. He could have bought a bunch of locking cases for that $2,000.

Belive it or not at a Arkansas show a lady about five feet tall and a 100 pounds wet jumped the table and ran down a very big guy. She jumped on his back till help came. He took a Colt 45. When the smoked cleared he said he thought he had to pay for the gun at the door. Ya we all belive that line. No charge because he was still inside the building.

Remember if they don't go out the door you can't get the police to charge them. Get some friends or the show security and wait till they are outside. Then you can put him in cuffs.

For the crooks. Remember stealing a gun is a mandatory 10 years.
No flea bargins for that charge. O, also a $250,000 fine if the right judge gets you.

I am not sure what they would do about a knife. It seems that would at least be grand theft. Maybe some of our LEO members can tell us what they do on a knife.
 
I recall at the SHOT show in '99 a major knife manufacturer had some prototypes stolen right out of their booth during a busy time that day. There really was no way to police that, as there were a LOT of folks coming into the booth to look at the new knives and with the whole crew running around talking with folks, it would be easy to hand someone a prototype to check out and get distracted by another person. Next thing you know, the guy with the prototype in his hand had fled. :(

I agree, anyone who attempts theft at gun and knife shows are flirting with death :D
 
There are some people in this world that are just plain scumbags. I remember a Gun show we had here in NH. A guy walks up to a table, looks like Joe citizen, clean cut and appears like a "regular". he is eyeing a New Colt Ar-15. he then turns and bang, OUT THE DOOR he runs to a waiting car. Yup, the commotion a High speed pursuit and crash. And during the initial theft, his Buddy pops a Smith and Wesson 5906 in his pocket and just walks away NEVER to be seen again. With knives, a diversion and a theft has got to be easy for an EDP.....wolf
 
Most guys that do that dont run.....they try to be very subtle and walk away making sure no one is looking. I have NEVER had anything stolen until last weekend at BAKCA. I left to talk to Mike Vagnino and put two knuckleheads in charge. When I came back a used Porsche Design chronograph was gone. We looked hi and lo...no watch. At first I was very upset...then I resigned myself to the fact that it was gone and put a smile on my face. A little while later I looked over at Larry Chew's table and there was a watch upside down on the back with his stuff. "Is that my watch?" I asked...."No, thats my Tag" was the reply.....He really thought that was funny (He was sitting right behind me and is my good buddy!!!)
:):):) Never a dull moment!
 
Knuckleheads!? On behalf of Kawanin and myself I resent that comment! :p Besides, if you would take money in payment instead of watches we wouldn't have had the problem. David and I were distracted because we were too busy trying on the Sinn that you got! :D

-Steven
 
Not much as far as knives go can get me going as much as a thief.
I have lost a couple of knives to them, but is was no big deal since they were factory and were not even in a case.

At this point it is up to all of us on both sides of the table to keep our eyes out. I am always sickened when a thief strikes a maker or purveyor. It is too hard to even understand how someone could enjoy owning a knife that they stole.

If we make a concious effort to be alert we can make their chosen carrer very difficult.
 
Knuckleheads!!!!!


Hey!! I resemble that remark.....told ya we should have stuck my casio in that Sinn box and not said a word Steve:).....

...the thanks we get so Tom can cruise the show , instead of taking care of business:rolleyes: :p :p
 
Personally I think it would take a real brave person to try to do a runner in a room full of knife people. The likelyhood of this person getting his butt kicked would be real good. If I saw someone running with another person chasing him yelling that this fella had just stolen a knife from him I would be all over this scumbag. I am sure that many others would be as well.

It is more likely, IMO, that someone would try to steal a knife when the person working the table is distacted getting a knife for or showing a knife to someone. I have no doubt that this has happened since our world is full of low lifes that just don't care how much of a hardship they might be causing by stealing that knife. It is always my hope that these people will be caught in the act.

I also feel that 99.9% of the people associated with the world of knives are honest and would never think to steal anything. A better bunch of people I have never had the pleasure to hang with. It is my opinion that most of the people that do this are not knife people, they are just crooks.
 
The good people of the world of knives are highly honest. I have only had one knife taken, it was while the security folks were in charge after the show closed for the night. Here is how -- A man looked at a knife during the show, asked me to put it away for him and he would return with the cash. I wrote his name on a card and placed the knife and scabbard under the table in a bag. He did not come back. The next morning I was going to put the knife back on the table, it was gone. I believe he came back after the show closed, talked security into giving him the knife as it had his name on it. Now if I put a knife back, I include a note to the effect "Owes $xxxx. I bleieve that security was trying to be helpful, he was the jerk!

I fell asleep at one show, woke up and a knife was gone, in its place was the cash to pay for it. Have no idea how many folks passed by the cash. I miss having the opportunity to thank him and shake his hand.
 
I fell asleep at one show, woke up and a knife was gone, in its place was the cash to pay for it. Have no idea how many folks passed by the cash. I miss having the opportunity to thank him and shake his hand.

Now that's a great story. Ed did you go back to sleep real quick and sell a few more? One thing for sure, you know the man really liked the knife.

Dave quick thinking there. Very good reply. Wish I had thought of it.
 
The Knife Show was the Meadowlands show when the big storm hit. The lights were off, there were very few clients, I was lucky, several men who collect my knives got snowed in also. Only the emergeancy lights were on in the show, it was quiet. They would go to their rooms, come back, look, go back, debate with each other then return to the show. I figure it was one of them, although no one admitted it.
 
It reminds me of the movie where two punks go into a "cop shop" ( a Bar where EVERYONE is an armed cop) and announce a hold-up and 75 guns stick in their faces. Sadly in reality, I have on two seperate occassions been involved in the theft of firearms from a Gun show. the one above and the other an outdoor affair held on our State Fairgrounds. Beautiful day with many sellers, buyers, tables, Hell people all over with guns trying to sell, buy, trade. In walks a guy 27 years old. Has what turned out to be a stolen Model 19 Smith. he wants to trade for a beretta 92F. The Dealer SITTING at his table takes the 19 and hands the guy the Beretta. The guy starts to look it over but is very slowly moving backwards. The dealer then opens the cylinder looks down and the guy is walking towards the center of the fairgrounds. The Dealer yells, Where the F are you going with my GUN!!!! before I and another officer could react, there were about 20 different guns leveled at this punk. The Dealer "lost" his beretta until after Court (16 months) we never found the owner of the 19, and this guy gave a Statement that he did this without EVER being caught at 15-20 KNIFE shows!!!!!! Of Course, our Great Criminal Justice system made things right. Nailed his Ass hard with a one year SUSPENDED sentence and two years UNSUPERVISED probation. That was effective.....DUH
wolf
 
1Nailed his Ass hard with a one year SUSPENDED sentence and two years UNSUPERVISED probation. That was effective.....DUH
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Who ever said that crime does not pay,lived a long time ago. The instance quoted above is one of many instances. The criminals just laugh at our Criminal Justice system. Could it be all the liberal judges? Naw.....yeah right!

Stay Safe,
A.T.
 
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