I bought the 830 "Eclipse" when they first came out and there were quality problems back then!! I bought two knives (for beaters) of the plain edge variety. On both, the blades were hitting the inside of the Zytel handle when the knife was closed. If you get a chance to look at one before you buy, make sure the blade doesn't hit the inside of the handle.
I haven't looked at any of the latest "Ascent" models.
Good Luck
JJ
[This message has been edited by JJG (edited 11-26-2000).]