"Belt Carry" or "Why Is Q Inventing The Wheel?"

CitizenQ

CitizenQ

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As I was pondering ways to carry my hawk it suddenly dawned on me...and I said to myself..."Q" (I said)..."Q why are you always trying to reinvent the wheel?" :confused: "The wheels been around for a long time Q...and it's probably as round as it's gonna get."

I refer to the colonial "frog" which -- as many of you know -- were used to carry the scabbards of a bayonet and/or sword as well as a tomahawk. They can be attached to a waist belt of shoulder strap with either a single or double frog. Frogs are made either entirely of leather of leather with a linen strap.

Then I remembered what brother Unsub said in another topic...

Unsub said:
Many packs already have the ideal way to carry a trailhawk already but most people just don't realize it. In fact many pack manufacturers just add them without knowing what they are for. Most good mountaineering packs have what is called an ice axe loop near the bottom. Tons of packs now have them just because it seems like they are supposed to even though they are never going to hold an ice axe ,however they are perfect for a trail hawk...
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So I rummaged around the CP for some spare parts I had laying around and I came up with this. It appears to work great and, best of all, it was free :thumbup:...

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I will add that this method of carry demands a sheath on the business end of your hawk and it seems to me that so many of us have Trail Hawks that there should be a huge market for a simple kydex slip sleeve for the trail Hawk...maybe something like the sleeve guard that came with several of my units...but in kydex...

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Before I got my Survival Sheath shoulder holster, I used to use a Maglite holder - the plastic ring type that goes on a duty belt. The ring is plastic so there's no noise or damage to the hawk.

I attached to it nylon band and wore it bandoleer style.
 
This type of carry has worked good for me. I use 10/12oz. leather and make them just like the hammer loop on my occidental leather tool belt. I usually wear some type of Sam Browne belt outside of my jacket. I use a simple leather black powder type bullet bag to cover the sharp bit.
 
And they are alot quieter than the steel loop rig that you showed. I've always got people buggin me to make them. I use the same Muir & McDonald heavy saddle skirting that I use for my knife sheaths. I'm on the road right now but I think I have one with the Wetterlings SAW that I carry in the truck. I'll try to take a pic latter. The cheaper generic versions like the ones in your pic above would work just fine. All you need is something to cover the bit.

If you look at the loop on this tool bag on the right in the link, it is how I make mine. I attach it to a simple leather tunnel sized to whatever belt it is for.

http://www.occidental-leather.com/adjustable/9550.html
 
saxon said:
And they are alot quieter than the steel loop rig that you showed. I've always got people buggin me to make them. I use the same Muir & McDonald heavy saddle skirting that I use for my knife sheaths. I'm on the road right now but I think I have one with the Wetterlings SAW that I carry in the truck. I'll try to take a pic latter. The cheaper generic versions like the ones in your pic above would work just fine. All you need is something to cover the bit.
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Hey Saxon...that would be great if you could take a picture...I've got Rainwalker working on making me a kydex slip sleeve.
 
These are taken with my web cam but I think you'll get the idea. Just hope I got them sized right.

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I didn't even bother to stitch these. I just use common cutlers rivets like I use to reenforce the mouth and bottom of my knife sheaths. You can see that I put a stand off piece between the loop and the body so the rivets will space better and so that the hawk hangs just a bit away from the belt. I also used a welt at the bottom to make a little more room for the belt.
 
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Yes! That's it!

Simple. Effective. Inexpensive. It doesn't get any better than that! :thumbup:

By the way, Dwight C. McLemore's The Fighting Tomahawk (highly recommended) has a excellent section on carrying and deploying a tomahawk.

The book is illustrated superbly IMHO and here's an image from the book which shows a colonial frog...

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Yep, I like that for an on the run rig. It would swing loose and not be in the way when ducking and crawling.
 
YES!!!!!!

this one right here would fit my heavy belt perfectly, or one of my side straps on my pack! I will lsip ovr some fuel line tubing to keep it from rattling.

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thanks!
 
CitizenQ said:
I will add that this method of carry demands a sheath on the business end of your hawk and it seems to me that so many of us have Trail Hawks that there should be a huge market for a simple kydex slip sleeve for the trail Hawk...maybe something like the sleeve guard that came with several of my units...but in kydex...
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Armadillo Sheaths makes a Kydex bit sleeve for the Trail Hawks.

http://armadillosheaths.com/

10 clams. - they are perfect.

tell him vec sentcha.

vec
 
Bushman5 said:
YES!!!!!! this one right here would fit my heavy belt perfectly, or one of my side straps on my pack! I will lsip ovr some fuel line tubing to keep it from rattling...
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Hold your hatchet brother Bushman...apparently Sears Hardware has entered the Tomahawk market with this $6.95 offering which I procured just this evening whilst the lovely Mrs. Q shopped for a new fridge...

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K.I.S.S. this.
Leftover leather scrap from a hobby shop, one old rawhide bootlace & 10min.
Not pretty, but very functional.
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These steel loop hangers would be cool if you used a couple of leather boot laces and do a 4 thong round braid around the loop. It would deaden the noise and look great. You could even incorporate the ends of the laces into the bit cover so it would just dangle from the loop when you pull it off of the bit.
 
This looks like you could wedge a fat fire steel and some kindling into that loop on the bottom. A bit of leather thong and a couple holes should lace it all in there, nice and snug like.

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