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We worked things out,
I am very sorry OWL................

[This message has been edited by MICKEY77 (edited 03-19-2000).]
 
It sounds like you couldn't come to an agreement. You really shouldn't be trying to TRASH somebodies reputation here. You know it's kind of hard for a lot of people here to take you too seriously. Who's fault is that?
 
Mickey 77, I have to agree with PhilL, you are asking people to take you at faith when you haven't really established credibility and haven't provided any real details other than "He did not do what I wanted him to do".
 
You mean OWL wouldn't take your deal even with the LOTS OF MONEY you were going to put into it? Gee, OWL doesn't sound like a very good business man does he? What exactly did you offer him?
 
Hey Mickey, How do you like the real world? Trading requires just a bit of finesse and I don't think you have enough.

Jake
 
Mickey, just because someone says they are interested in making a deal Does Not mean that you have Made a deal. There is at least a twenty-five to thirty-five dollar difference in the value of the knives you are discussing. Did you agree to pay the difference in cash?

It is Really poor form to make this sort of post just because you are upset with how things turned out. You have lost nothing. Neither has Owl. It sounds like there never was an agreement. Let it go.

BTW: the only one whose reputation is being damaged by this thread is You.

Paracelsus
 
Mickey, IMHO if a man does not misrepresent his knives or steals your money, he should not be mentioned here.

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Quote Mickey77 "I mysel am very tired especially of certain members bashing on others...." Looks like you don't pay any more attention to what you say than we do, huh?
 
Have to agree with the group here. This is perhaps a disappointment, not an 'UGLY'.
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That is not the point,
the point is,
Why did he reply to my post in the first place???
I was surely gonna offer some extra money and that was obvious, but I am not so much "bashing" him as I am making it understood, that hed repplied on my topic for no reason at all???????????
 
You don't think it's "BASHING" to post someone's name in the Good Bad and the UGLY, for forgetting a Smiley Face? This is kind of ironic.
Don't you think you owe this man a Public Apology?
Did anyone take your offer?
Did you think it was an even trade?
How much money did you offer to add?
Is this your first trade?
Are you even over 18 and able to make a knife deal?

Are you man enough to admit when you're wrong?

Now is about the time one of the girls runs to tel the Teacher!

[This message has been edited by PhilL (edited 03-19-2000).]
 
Cougar, please help here. I would like to hear what you have to say here? I am curious as what you think is good form? This will illuminate me in my future transactions on the forums.
 
What I want to know is why Mickey is surprised that someone "repplied on my topic for no reason at all???????????"

Isn't that what YOU do?

Paraclesus, temptation has drawn me over the line. I am sorry for my weakness. I beg for your forgiveness.
 
Yeah, for pretty close to 1000 posts.
Mickey you do know that no matter how many times you post YOU are NOT going to be a Senior Member?
I'd like to get a Rockwell test on this guys cranium.

How many times have you posted on the Exchange Forums?
How many knives have you bought there?
Do you know what the word HYPOCRIT means?

[This message has been edited by PhilL (edited 03-19-2000).]
 
C´mon guys. It was enough wasn´t it?? Do you think that OWL was 100% right??? He made fun of Mickey and he did not like it and posted it here - is that such a big deal??

David

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Originally posted by paranoid9999:
Cougar, please help here. I would like to hear what you have to say here? I am curious as what you think is good form? This will illuminate me in my future transactions on the forums.
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Well, as I keep saying I'm not the judge here; I'm only a moderator ... but I think I can comment on the general case.

People get offended at offers they consider too low, and people get offended by comments on their offers -- it happens all the time. It probably happens more often on the net because of the lack of expression in text, sometimes people read plain text in ways that the author didn't intend, but it happens irl too. I've been at shows and seen dealers in a rage over an offer someone made them, and customers in a rage over the response they got from a dealer to an offer they made.

I think it's an admissible topic for this forum; people can discuss the etiquette of negotiation, whether it's rude to try making a low offer for something or not, and whether it's rude to respond to an offer you consider too low in heated or satiric terms ... why not?

I see it as a question of etiquette rather than a question of ethics. I can't imagine banning anyone from the forums for making a low offer, even if he offers $10 for a Sebenza, and as for responses to an offer you consider too low ... well, we do have a rule against personal attacks on the forums ... but you can certainly express your opinion of an offer without attacking the person who made that offer....

As for Mickey77 and Owl ... I'm not even sure exactly what happened here. Was there some kind of misunderstanding? Did Mickey77 take Owl's post as a serious offer to make an even trade, Whirlwind for Mini-Stryker, and then Owl told him he'd meant it as a satiric comment? Or did Mickey email Owl offering "lots of money" in addition to the knife in trade but Owl thought even with "lots of money" the offer was too low and said so in terms that Mickey felt were insulting? I don't know what's going on here exactly, but whatever it is, it seems to be a relatively minor misunderstanding, isn't it?

I see a bunch of people in this thread saying Owl's post wasn't such a big deal, and now I see David1967 saying it isn't such a big deal that Mickey got upset and started this thread either, which also makes sense to me.

Seems to me in such matters, however low an offer somebody makes may be, however heated a response to an perfectly reasonable offer might be ... why get upset about it? People will make you offers you consider unreasonably low, people will respond to offers you make in ways you consider rude, sometimes there isn't any misunderstanding involved at all and the other guy really is making a ridiculously low offer or responding angrily to a perfectly reasonable offer -- that's going to happen. It isn't part of every negotiation but it's an inherent risk of the negotiation process.

Personally, if someone offers me $10 for a Sebenza I don't get upset about it; I just say no, and if somebody gets all upset and accuses me of making a ridiculous offer because I asked him if he'd take $5 less for it, curses me out, whatever, I don't have to get upset just because he is ... I just go on to the next table or the next thread.

Some people are more inclined to get upset in the course of negotiations than I am, and if some of those people want to complain about the rudeness of making excessively low offers or the rudeness of responding angrily to offers less than the asking price, I think that's an admissible topic for this forum and people can discuss it ... I might consider it a waste of energy, but we can have discussions that I consider a waste of energy, as long as they're more or less on topic and reasonably civil....
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-Cougar :{)

P.S. Sometimes you will think you've reached an agreement and then the other guy will change his mind, too. That can be disappointing if you were all fired up about the deal, but ... that's another thing that is going to happen sometimes ... you might as well learn to live with it....

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[This message has been edited by Cougar Allen (edited 03-19-2000).]
 
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