Broke tip on Endura

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Lone Hunter

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I'm moving a tree stand, Im up the tree and need to use my knife to cut away a piece of bark that the screw in step keeps hitting. After slicing it off I stick the knife into the tree, in case I need to use it some more.

But snap off comes about 3/8's or so of the tip ! All i did was stick it straight into the tree with about as much force as a "hard knock on a door".

Does that seem right? There was no twisting etc. I'm not knocking Spyderco I own many of them and will replace this one too. Maybe with a Native III, but this just seems weird,I've stuck knives into trees ,many a time. Just bad luck??
 
Bad luck. :(

I see the new endura has a stronger tip. Maybe you should look at getting one, they should be released in a few months. There a few pics on the Spyderco forum.
 
Aloha Lone Hunter...

Hmmmm, too many variables here. However, that broken Endura can retire in Hawaii if you want! :D

God bless :thumbup:
 
Send it back to Spyderco. They can look at it to see if there was anything wrong with the heat-treating, etc. At the very least it can be reground to a "para-endura" shape so you still have a very usable knife.

David
 
It can most likely be reprofiled to a point. It may look odd afterward but you may be able to Tanto shape the tip some or make it more like a Atlantic Salt looking tip in the traditional Sheepsfoot, Lambsfoot, Wharncliff look.

STR
 
Several years ago, when I was working night security in South Dakota, I broke the tip off of my Police. I was doing a store closing, and the end of a key snapped off in the lock!! I did get the piece of key out. Anyway, I sent my Police back to Spyderco with $10. They got it all fixed up for me. So just send it in.
 
I don’t exactly consider stabbing a knife into a tree normal use, and see it as a good way to stress the tip. I stopped doing things like that when I was about 12 and bought an Old Timer Trapper. The warranty paper that came with that Trapper warned against such activities as they could damage the knife and void the warranty. I stopped stabbing knives into logs and trees at that time, and haven’t since. A good suggestion for future reference is to attach a lanyard made of shock cord to the knife. That would accomplish the same task of stabbing it into the tree (even better since it could fall out of the tree) by freeing you hands and keeping the knife handy.
 
Think of it this way, you have a knife with character! I think knives with scars and scratches are far more interesting than those without. It is an unfortunate incedent, but you now have a knife with a story to tell. Keep using it and add to the story!
 
Spyderco normally charges $5 s and h to sharpen and send the knife back.

But if you abused the knife they charge an extra $20 to regrind! Whether this situation is abuse or not, I have no idea....

I lost the very tip of my Calypso Jr. somehow....but did not abuse it. I have another one coming, then I'll eventually get the first reground. I'll be very upset if they charge the $20 (on the other hand I didn't stab a tree.)
 
I think people need to use more common sense with their knives. When you look at a knife it isn't that hard to tell if it's something you should stick in a tree or not. Most of the Spyderco's I own have fairly thin blades and especially thin tips. They are designed for cutting, not thrusting into tree trunks. If I did this and broke the tip I would say "I should have known better" and it would be my fault.

Reminds me of the time my friend threw his Spyderco Police model (this is going back almost 15 years) at a tree and snapped the tip off. I wasn't surprised and was amazed he would do something so silly.
 
Well lets see. I hang 6 or more stands a year,10 screw in steps each = 60. Move a couple stands 2 or 3 times a season means I put in about 100 screw in steps. Each time ( well most times) I use a knife to make a starter hole for the screw in step.

Now figure how many that makes over 20 years or so.... Never had a blade snap, not once.

In the last 27 years I've worked 3 jobs,construction, dock worker, and 15 on the job as a firefighter . I have used knives a lot on each job, and sticking it into a tree would be a very easy day at work for my knives.

I'm not knocking Spyderco, I'll eat this. I stuck it into the tree with about as much force as the trick or treaters will bang on your door in a couple hours,and it snapped off. Yes I am surprized as I've done this countless times over the years with every type of blade from sak's to multi-tools.

Well I got to hop into my stand, them goats will be movin soon.
 
I don't think it's abuse to stick a knife in a tree. He didn't throw it, just stuck it in to hold its place. I do that often with never a regret. I have broken off tips by throwing the knife. Wouldn't happen with a cold steel voyager, I've done worse. If it ain't the steel its the design.
 
brownshoe said:
I don't think it's abuse to stick a knife in a tree. If it ain't the steel its the design.
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Sorry but as a spyderco fan and owner of probably 70 different spydies...this is the most moronic statement I have ever read..
 
Sorry but as a spyderco fan and owner of probably 70 different spydies...this is the most moronic statement I have ever read..
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Awww, I bet I can top it. Here goes a shot:

Lone Hunter, reckon you could weld that tip back on and then just grind down the beads till it's nice and smooth again? Be good as new! Oh and by the way, I love fried chicken.

There, how was that?

Seriously, Endura seems a likely candidate if there was going to be a tip break. It's just a thin blade out there at the tip. Great for some jobs, but starting holes isn't one I'd use it for. Any chance it was weakened by starting a hole before you stuck it into the tree?
 
Mr. ren, you mustn't use knives outside a city environment very much. Sticking a knife in a tree, board, picnic table is normal human use...albeit from your perspective most humans are morons. With 70 sypdercos you use a knife about 4 times a year at best...that's use? If you know anything about knife design, tip breakage is one of the key spyderco flaws on many of their blades;

thin tips+hard steel+normal use= broken tip...

that's why the endura in AUS6 may actually be a better knife than the VG10 version. Now that flaw wasn't a big deal when spyderco admitted it and reground your tip for free. Now when they charge $20 on a $50 knife, it's kind of a pain in the ass.
 
Lone Hunter,

Sorry to hear about your tip. Feel free to give Amanda here in Warranty and Repair a call and she'd be glad to help you out. She's here Monday-Friday 7:30-4:30 MST 800-525-7770 X255 or 303-279-8383 X255 or you can email her at customerservice@spyderco.com

Did you get a deer?


Hi Ren....Didn't know you were a Yanni fan buddy! LOL:D

Joyce @ Spyderco
 
Joyce, why yes I did. Today from the very same stand. I took a doe and passed on two small bucks.

I dressed it out with my Case Trapper, as I prefer traditional knives for hunting. But right now I have my Manix back in my pocket and a pe Merlin in my waist band.:)
 
Joyce Laituri said:
Hi Ren....Didn't know you were a Yanni fan buddy! LOL:D

Joyce @ Spyderco
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A Yanni fan...Thats it ...Im selling all my spydercos!!! LOL... seriously dont hate me cause Im handsome...

thanks for the laugh...
 
brownshoe said:
Mr. ren, you mustn't use knives outside a city environment very much. Sticking a knife in a tree, board, picnic table is normal human use...albeit from your perspective most humans are morons. With 70 sypdercos you use a knife about 4 times a year at best...that's use? If you know anything about knife design, tip breakage is one of the key spyderco flaws on many of their blades;

thin tips+hard steel+normal use= broken tip...

that's why the endura in AUS6 may actually be a better knife than the VG10 version. Now that flaw wasn't a big deal when spyderco admitted it and reground your tip for free. Now when they charge $20 on a $50 knife, it's kind of a pain in the ass.
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Mr. Brownshoe...
Actually I live in the country. I have a functioning small orchard. I have a acre of water on my land fed by a artesian well. I heat in the winter partially with wood so I am splitting wood and dropping trees all the time. Never in my life have I had to stick a knife in a tree...Errr with the exception of once in 6th grade when I carved my name into a American Beech tree in a heart with my girlfriend at the time...Shelly ...but your right the tip broke off...because the combination folder . fork and spoon..etc..knife was not designed to be stuck in a tree....since that time I have never had the need or opportunity to stab a tree..

One of my two everyday carries is in fact a stainless Delica and it handles most tasks around the homestead and at work here fine...

I disagree with the thin tip hard steel equals broken tip...If used properly the knife should never break...but I guess on certian occasions...they will...stabbing picnic tables for instance..then pulling the knife out horizontally..

of all the production knives I used to collect I sold them all with exception of Spyderco. Why? because I feel Spyderco represents the finest collaborations with the Knife industry. The best quality for the dollar for production knives, and I think that the customer service is excellent. I support independent business and Spyderco is just that. I am sorry that you have had quality issues but maybe its the ol nature or nurture ( use or abuse ) issue that goes on and on and on.....So you are correct. I do not use ALL of my spydercos..but I the same one every day for over six years....plus a police SE in the car, Clipit on hydra pack. ..

and you are right about the moron part..I believe what Abe Lincoln said years ago. Better to keep you mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
 
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