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vikingextreme93

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I have a kershaw Skyline and loved the knife until it had been sitting on a my little EDC shelf for a couple weeks after I got my new buck vantage select, I opened up my skyline and sure enough there were a couple rust spots forming. The knife never got wet and I always wipe it down after use (not always with oil) it really ticked me off. I am just wondering if it is the steel or that damned stone wash finish? The reason I am asking is that I like the new buck avid but dont want to buy it if the steel is not very "stain resistant" I carry a VG10 dragonfly to the office everyday, and regularly carry other knives in 420HC and 154CM and those have been carrying for years with no rust and that dang skyline I just bought in April.
 
vikingextreme93 said:
I have a kershaw Skyline and loved the knife until it had been sitting on a my little EDC shelf for a couple weeks after I got my new buck vantage select, I opened up my skyline and sure enough there were a couple rust spots forming. The knife never got wet and I always wipe it down after use (not always with oil) it really ticked me off. I am just wondering if it is the steel or that damned stone wash finish? The reason I am asking is that I like the new buck avid but dont want to buy it if the steel is not very "stain resistant" I carry a VG10 dragonfly to the office everyday, and regularly carry other knives in 420HC and 154CM and those have been carrying for years with no rust and that dang skyline I just bought in April.
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Problem is the knife says "Kershaw" on it. Just my opinion mind you, I can hear the Kershaw Mafia running this way as I speak:p
 
IMO it is the finish that Kershaw uses. I have had rust form almost immediately after contact with water on my JYDII and Needs Work. The black bladed Shallot I have developed rust spots on the cutting edge after being carried in a sweaty pocket and being used to cut some wet wood. It took longer to rust on the cutting edge though than on the flat of the blades of the other knives. I figured it was due to the high polish of the edge whereas the bead blasted finish of the JYD and NW were partly the cause for the spotting on the blades so quickly after exposure to moisture.

I think the finish, combined with the properties of the Sandvik steel that is the primary cause of the limited rust resistance. I think that if a company uses a steel with low corrosion resistance that they should take the blade finish beyond bead blasting or at the least, coat the blade.

ETA: The rust spotting on the edge of the Shallot came right out with a few passes on the fine stones of the sharpmaker. The rust spotting on the needs work and JYDII are still there. I am sure I could buff them out with some metal polish but they are stains not pitting and haven't interfered with the use of the knives. I haven't carried the JYD or Shallot in a while and will probably be carrying the Needs Work today.

Pete
 
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Amaranth said:
Problem is the knife says "Kershaw" on it. Just my opinion mind you, I can hear the Kershaw Mafia running this way as I speak:p
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nope...but...but you definitely found a spot on my ignore list.
 
morrowj_98 said:
nope...but...but you definitely found a spot on my ignore list.
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I wanted to know what his issue is since he posted in another thread he would never buy a Kershaw because he does not care for the designs... It's one thing to not care for a knife design and pass on it and another to diss it never owning one...:mad:

There are certain brands that I inexplicably have no interest in. It may be a combination of overall look of the knife or just my perception of the type of knives they make. For instance, I'll never own a Cold Steel knife, because I don't like the name "Cold Steel". And Kershaw-just don't like the designs of their knives.
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Bead blasted finishes are known to be more susceptible to corrosion than a mirror finish. However, ,Sandvik alloys should be quite corrosion resistant.

"Stainless" steel is only "stainless" because of a surface oxide layer that blocks moisture and oxygen. Sometimes you get some contamination during the manufacturing processes and that oxide layer becomes imperfect and allows oxygen and moisture to get to the actual alloy and you get some surface corrosion. Usually, if you buff out the corrosion, in the process removing the contamination, the corrosion will not come back.

If it were I, I would buff out the areas of corrosion and see how the knife performs then.
 
babakanoosh45 said:
I wanted to know what his issue is since he posted in another thread he would never buy a Kershaw because he does not care for the designs... It's one thing to not care for a knife design and pass on it and another to diss it never owning one...:mad:
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Apparently his issue is that he's a troll. And he got a reaction out of you, so he "wins".
 
I used to be a Big Kershaw fan, in fact the old Blackout is still a favorite. That said, the last few that I have purchased do not seem to have the quality that I had come to expect, In their defense though, these last few have been some of their cheaper models.

The Buck 110 was my first folder and kind of spoiled me, The 110 has done much more than I ever asked of it for 30+ years. Bucks 420 has always done a good job for me.
 
It's no secret I am a BIG Buck fan. But I have had several Kershaws and every one of them has impressed me enough that I still have them. I go through knives (buying /selling / trading) often. I have come to ignore rust on a blade. You buff it out and go on. I have some blades that are better than 25 years old that have had plenty of rust on them and I still use them. But I think "knarfeng" and "Pete1977" answered the tech end of the rust issue. Either manufacturer makes life long lasting products. :thumbup:
 
udtjim said:
That said, the last few that I have purchased do not seem to have the quality that I had come to expect, In their defense though, these last few have been some of their cheaper models.
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Sorry to hear of your disappointment with your last few purchases (imports perhaps?) What cheaper models are you referring to?
 
samhain73 said:
My only complaint of Kershaw is the lack of lockbacks, which is my preferred lock.
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The Gentlemans lockback Knife is very nice...

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Vapor, Random Leek, and JYD developed rust spots pretty quickly, as did a 110V Shallot, just on the handle.
 
Goodness these threads go all over the place...What ever happened to keeping with the OP's original question? :confused:
 
Most of my knives are either Buck or Kershaw. I have had issues with small rust spots or stains on all brands I own. These occur more on bead blasted surfaces than any others. I have always been able to remove them with either Fritz, Peek, Mothers, or any other type metal polish. Very rarely does corrosion return once cleaned off. They usually occur only when the knife is newer. I consider these minor things such as a little corrosion and subsequent maintenance as part of knife ownership. Use your stuff and take care of it and it will take care of you :). The only good, truly maintenance free blade steel I have found are H1 and X15TN. Of course you have Ti, Talonite, Stellite, true stainless, etc but they fall into a non-ferrous category and some do not perform the best as a blade material.
Kershaw and Buck both make excellent products using premium materials with great warranties and CS. They both produce such a wide range of products that there will always be some that you love and some that you pass by.
 
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