Chinese "Police State" in Tibet

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Bill Marsh

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Rusty asked me a question in another thread. I can't find it, so I am posting a new one.

The question was:

"I have heard that China is continuing to round up the native Tibetans, shuffle them off to other fringe areas like Mongolia and move in the Han."

I asked my friend in Kathmandu because he is very knowlegdeable about Tibet. He responded

"Bill,

"Briefly, the population of Tibet is something like 6 million Tibetans and an estimated 7.5 million Chinese, most of whom are in Kham and Amdo.

"There are very active incentive programs in place by the Chinese government to get Han settlers into Tibet. They have made people offers that are hard to beat - housing, jobs, and various financial incentives to move to Tibet.

"As for moving Tibetans out, they don't bother much with that really. It is well documented that there is forced sterilization of Tibetan women (It is estimated that between 4 and 20 percent of Tibetan women are no longer able to reproduce due to forced or coerced sterilization), teaching Chinese language and writing in schools rather than Tibetan language, inability to practice their religion, mass imprisonment of dissenters, etc. etc. They are crushing the Tibetans within Tibet. They don't need to bother much with sending them out. Tibetans are already a minority in their own country.

"This is only the tip of the proverbial ice berg. Besides the human aspects, there are major issues with regard to the pillaging of Tibet's natural resources. Deforestation, mining, oil & gas drilling(http://www.savetibet.org/Environment/Environment.cfm?ID=104&c=30), Chinese poaching/ avid hunting - and not for food, maybe for the pelt or some body part for traditional medicines but just as often simply for the thrill of killing an animal, to shoot something, maybe take a photo with the carcass, then get back in the jeep and leave it there where it fell.

"By the way there are also plenty of ICBM nuclear launching platforms in Tibet. http://www.tibet.com/Eco/Green98/chap6.html

"Basically for the Chinese Tibet is a place to pillage resources, expand population, and launch missiles. The Tibetan people are just an obstacle to be overcome as they use Tibet as a "facility".

"Ok, gotta go, we can discuss this more later.

"Steve


I am shocked by the things this short letter brings to light!

"Forced sterilzation?"
"ICBM Nuclear launching platforms?" And radioactive waste dumping
"Pillage Tibet natural resources?"

Maybe when we get through with Nepal, we should push on into Tibet.

Bill Marsh
 
In another thread I told everybody how I felt. I am not the only one either.

The Russians, Chinese, and North Koreans are playing possum. Lulling the world to sleep and then; Look out, but by the time the rest of the world wakes up it may be too late. I'd almost bet that things are going in that direction. Our Government has been selling us down the river for a long time too. From what I see, It looks like Clinton did more to destroy the Constitution than all the other Presidents combined.
 
We are fifty years too late on Tibet.

When I was in Nepal I wanted to go visit Tibet in the worst way but never did because I knew I'd end up in worse trouble than Steve. My mouth and hardheadedness would have kept me in jail for years -- or maybe for life!!! I don't take kindly to people telling me when and/or where I can pray.

If you want to get sick rent the video "Seven Years in Tibet" and watch it. My old pal in Chetrapati was one of those Tibetan soldiers using a bow and arrow to fight the Chinese Army.

Pappy, those whom the gods seek to destroy are given power and if we ain't damned careful they'll take us all down with them. That's why we have to always be on our toes and defend the constitution on a never ending daily basis in every way we can. If we don't you can be sure some SOB will be pecking away at our basic rights and freedoms.

Freedom is not, never has been and never will be free!!!
 
nOthing is free.

critics of capitalism have no farther to look than our trade relations with china. I've never understood why we didn't take advantage of the cheap labor pools of our friends- like Taiwan, instead. Perhaps there is something to be said about engagement through comerce, but it rankles. Particularly as jobs have fled the US and our employment boon in the Clinton years was in service positions.

munk the grump
 
Everything I pick up anymore says made in China. I guess it's the 19 cent per hour labor rate.
 
Recall according to Mohd, Malaysia ( and probably Sri Lanka, India, Burma, Bangladesh, Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia, and Pakistan ) were building up a good base for economic expansion and then poof it dried up.

Want to bet our senators and congressmen were getting their campaign money at a chinese laundry?:barf:
 
Want to bet our senators and congressmen were getting their campaign money at a chinese laundry?>>>

William J. Clinton did, and everyone kept telling me he was the smartest President ever.

munk
 
Originally posted by Pappy
The Russians, Chinese, and North Koreans are playing possum. Lulling the world to sleep and then; Look out, but by the time the rest of the world wakes up it may be too late.....
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Here they are: My wife thinks they all look like Christian Slater!

But seriously, I agree with Pappy. We have the best country in the world. But we need to keep a watchful eye open. There are those that would destroy our freedoms and they are inside this country.

Bill M.
 
One of those possums got into my attic a few months ago. After some discussion with the wife, I put a .22 rimfire solid through it's head.
Not so cute when full grown, up close, and in your house.

--Mike L.
 
Last one I took out with my antique .38 was maybe 30 years ago. We couldn't afford to keep him in chickens -- raided the chicken house every night. I told him to go somewhere else but he wouldn't listen.
 
One of my elderly neighbors had a possum infestation a while back. I trapped them and helped her get rid of them.

Yummmm...

Possum7-00.jpg
 
By the way, a HI WWII removed the head. This is a humane way to kill and helps the possum bleed out well.
 
Darn Howard,

Were you cooking that thing, or, just taking out a little aggression? :eek: :eek: :eek: :D

n2s
 
My Dad used to bake'em whole -- came out looking pretty much like Howard's picture except looking well roasted and brown. Mom used to gag. I passed on the meal. Dad loved it.
 
Our attic possum got unceremoniously dumped in a bag and taken to the trash can. I regret having to kill him/her/it, but there was no way to "shoo" the critter away.

Can't wait till some bunny-hugger sees the above pic and blows his veggie burger all over his keyboard.


--Mike L.
 
Yeah, there would be no way to get the possum out without major trouble, and possible trauma to everyone. Last year a bat made it in the house, and I netted him.

Has anyone stared into a possum's eyes by flashlight? They aint wired like us.

I commend you your speedy dispatch of the possum to the Factory in the Sky.

munk
 
Originally posted by munk
William J. Clinton did, and everyone kept telling me he was the smartest President ever.
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There is a difference between intelligence, wisdom and integrity.

Clinton, I'm pretty sure, is a dang smart guy. He might even have some wisdom, about the way people work, and how to play the angles. He was a *little* deficient in the integrity part, but I think most politicians are. It is very difficult to get certain places on the straight and narrow road.

The only people who would make good politicians don't want the job. Then again, if Uncle Bill runs for Senate, I may have to edit this post. :D
 
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