Confusion about Balde-grip Knife Throwing :S

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Hi,
Nice forum.

I have just gotten into the word of blades.
A expert knife crafter (who is in the guiness world records for crafting the worlds smallest knife) though me how to craft knifes and now I have found a intrest in knife throwing.
So I bough myself 2 20cm throwing knifes ( http://www.niber.net/kniv2.jpg ) and a book on how to throw knifes.

But I have big confusion that I'm hoping you guys have the answer to:
In this pic my cartoon hand is holding the knife the way the book tells me to, but look how it moves when it hits the target, the NON-blade side hits it, surely that cannot be good, right?
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Should it not be like I've drawned in blue?

Also I'm not totally sure if I should use the blade grip or the normal handle grip,
my book says this:
"If it's suppost to be thrown by the handle, point first, the pointed end is the heavy end"
When I hold the knife with a finger in the dead center, it falls down on the handle, which must mean that the handle is the "heavy end" which must mean that the pointed edge is the light end and that my knife is not a handle-thrown knife,
right?
The website I bought the knife from says nothing about it being blade-thrown or handle thrown, and there is no manual.
 
The sort of hook shaped projection on the end of the handle make it difficult to throw your knife by the handle. If you ground that off it would be much easier to throw that way. I wouldn't worry about the knife hitting the target as indicated in your top picture, that would work fine. Your real problem is that you are gripping the knife up high close to the handle. It is hard to get a stable rotation when you are gripping the knife around the center of mass. You will also have trouble throwing the knife very hard if you turn your wrist inwards to try and get the knife to rotate as you show along the top of your picture.

I would grip the blade such that the point is about even with the bottom of hand (a little above where the first crease of your wrist is located). I would actually throw the blade so that it rotates with the edge horizontal, rather than vertical as you have shown. Basically with this grip and throw your thumb is on the top side of the blade (the flat) as you hold the knife in front of you. This will allow you to throw the knife 2 or 3 times as hard as with the grip you illustrated. At close range (1/2 turn rotation) the knife will stick in a target horizontal as you would expect. Due to peculiarities of the physics of freely rotating bodies the knife will switch over to rotating with the edge vertical by about the time the blade makes 1-1/2 turns (the next distance at which the point is going forwards).
 
Oh, so the blade is not really important, it's just the point that does the job.

Hehe I did draw the picture throwing horizontal, it can be viewed as a side view but just as good be a top-down view.

Hm yeah I guess I should have bought a bigger one, these were the biggest they had where I bought it thought. But if I enjoy it I will probebly buy new, bigger and more expensive once I get some skills.

Thanks.
 
From what I have found so far being rather new to knive throwing myself its possible to throw both by the handle and the blade and its just a matter of practice. And the point is the most important part as you dont want the blade to stick long ways as i doubt it would work. Well if you need any help with anything else just ask. Everyones really friendly on this forum and they helped with me a lot.
 
BP--

Aegil's correct. If you can see how your knife is striking the target--which is a good trick in itself--you can correct every throwing problem you have.

If the knife is striking 180-degrees from where you want it, rotate the knife in your grip by 180-degrees and then throw. If the knife is *almost* sticking the way you want it, step forward or back 30cm until it lands correctly.

The average knife should rotate three times per meter, so you can use this simple rule to adjust your distance from the target accordingly.
 
The average knife should rotate three times per meter
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I guess what you meant to say is 'one rotation per three meters', or in other words, you stand 10-12 feet from the target for the handle throw on a single revolution of the knife.
 
NI200 said:
I guess what you meant to say is 'one rotation per three meters', or in other words, you stand 10-12 feet from the target for the handle throw on a single revolution of the knife.
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Oof! :foot: You are correct, and I receive -5 points for stupid penmanship.

Three times per meter would be an awful lot of spin! Thanks for catching my error.
 
When i was just starting out I could swear i was throwing like 30 spins a meter. The joys of stereotypes of throwing.
i used the think you can only throw it by blade or you'd cut yourself with the blade coming back round. And that you can only throw it spinning.
But now I am much better informed.
 
Hahaha, that was fun.
these knives had alot more damage roll than I imagened.
I built what I thought was a strong and thick target but this happened with a throw from 10 meters (3 and a half turns):
http://www.niber.net/ouch.jpg

The handles fell off after like 3-10 throws, which was a bit of shame since it was much easier to see how many times it turned (when throwing that might be easy since you know from what distance you are but when juggeling with the knives it can be hard), although I didn't really expect those weak handles to live long.
 
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